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Nathan B Forrest's Address to the Pole Bearers
Civil War Talk ^ | 2007 | Sears

Posted on 03/07/2015 11:30:33 AM PST by Repulican Donkey

Ladies and Gentlemen, I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the Southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. (Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man, to depress none.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilwar; confederacy; dixie; freedom; liberty; memphis; nathanbforrest; righttowork; selma; statesrights; unionthugs; yankee
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1 posted on 03/07/2015 11:30:33 AM PST by Repulican Donkey
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To: Repulican Donkey

Bookmarked


2 posted on 03/07/2015 11:38:16 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Repulican Donkey
The event and speech in full:

Forrest's speech to the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association July 5, 1875.

A convention and BBQ was held by the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association at the fairgrounds of Memphis, five miles east of the city. An invitation to speak was conveyed to General Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the city's most prominent citizens, and one of the foremost cavalry commanders in the late War Between the States. This was the first invitation granted to a white man to speak at this gathering. The invitation's purpose, one of the leaders said, was to extend peace, joy, and union, and following a brief welcoming address a Miss Lou Lewis, daughter of an officer of the Pole-Bearers, brought forward flowers and assurances that she conveyed them as a token of good will. After Miss Lewis handed him the flowers, General Forrest responded with a short speech:

"Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand. (Prolonged applause.)"

Whereupon N. B. Forrest again thanked Miss Lewis for the bouquet and then gave her a kiss on the cheek. Such a kiss was unheard of in the society of those days, in 1875, but it showed a token of respect and friendship between the general and the black community and did much to promote harmony among the citizens of Memphis.

3 posted on 03/07/2015 11:40:44 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: Repulican Donkey

4 posted on 03/07/2015 11:41:10 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: Repulican Donkey

“for if there is any one on God’s earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself.”

He was, as they say, “Fustest with the hostess.”


5 posted on 03/07/2015 11:44:13 AM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Repulican Donkey

Big figure in the KKK too....why is he being lauded here?


6 posted on 03/07/2015 11:46:44 AM PST by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: nathanbedford

ping


7 posted on 03/07/2015 11:50:42 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Crim

Although Forrest was a founder of the Klan he soon disassociated himself from them because of the violent and intolerant path they choose to follow.

Hollyweird will never make a truthful film about him until after it cleans it’s own house. It would make an interesting mini-series or 3 or 4 film set.


8 posted on 03/07/2015 11:51:29 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Fiddlstix
Nathan Bedford Forrest, as were many of the Confederate leaders, was a DINO -- only nominally a Democrat. Were he alive today, he and others such Christians of the South, including Robert E. Lee, would be stalwarts of Conservatism and the Tea Party movement.

One gentleman in particular merits special mention: Jefferson Davis was offered the position of the first president of Texas A&M University, which he unfortunately turned down. Recently, A&M has sadly drifted off course, tossing its principles aside by embracing the diversity agenda championed by sodomites. If the great Mr. Davis were its president today, A&M would still be a fine, upstanding institution.


9 posted on 03/07/2015 11:51:46 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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Gentlemen?...more like rebel scum.

What the hell is going on here?


10 posted on 03/07/2015 12:04:25 PM PST by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: fella

“Although Forrest was a founder of the Klan”

The correct term is GRAND WIZARD.


11 posted on 03/07/2015 12:09:44 PM PST by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

Clever.


12 posted on 03/07/2015 12:13:10 PM PST by ryan71 (Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
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To: Crim
...rebel scum.

Does that scum remark include General Robert E. Lee?

In studying Robert E. Lee for over 10 years, it has become crystal clear to me that Robert E. Lee was a devoted follower and humble servant of Jesus Christ. The teachings of Christ and the words of the Holy Scriptures shine forth in the walk and life of Robert E. Lee. Robert E. Lee was a man of Prayer and Devotion. In addition, his own writings demonstrate his profound faith. There is extensive documentation that Robert E. Lee was a man of faith, and a man of prayer.

Source: Robert E. Lee's Religious Views.

13 posted on 03/07/2015 12:16:24 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex

Did he wear gray and fight for the Democrat confederacy to defend the institution of slavery?


14 posted on 03/07/2015 12:24:22 PM PST by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Repulican Donkey

Forrest : Memphis' first White Civil Rights Advocate

Lt. General Nathan Bedford Forrest (1821-1877) was a renowned Southern military leader and strategist during the War Between the States. During the Civil War, Forrest's Confederate cavalry wrecked havoc among Union forces throughout the mid-South. He gained worldwide fame from his many battlefield successes, but the wartime heroics have overshadowed his post-war work as a community leader and civil rights advocate. He fought fiercely on the battlefield, yet was a compassionate man off the field. After the war, Forrest worked tirelessly to build the New South and to promote employment for black Southerners. Forrest was known near and far as a great general, and was a well-respected citizen by both blacks and whites alike.

The Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association (predecessor to the NAACP) was organized by Southern blacks after the war to promote black voting rights, etc. One of their early conventions was held in Memphis and Mr. Forrest was invited to be the guest speaker, the first white man ever to be invited to speak to the Association.

After the Civil War, General Forrest made a speech to the Memphis City Council (then called the Board of Aldermen). In this speech he said that there was no reason that the black man could not be doctors, store clerks, bankers, or any other job equal to whites. They were part of our community and should be involved and employed as such just like anyone else. In another speech to Federal authorities, Forrest said that many of the ex-slaves were skilled artisans and needed to be employed and that those skills needed to be taught to the younger workers. If not, then the next generation of blacks would have no skills and could not succeed and would become dependent on the welfare of society.

Forrest's words went unheeded. The Memphis & Selma Railroad was organized by Forrest after the war to help rebuild the South's transportation and to build the 'new South'. Forrest took it upon himself to hire blacks as architects, construction engineers and foremen, train engineers and conductors, and other high level jobs. In the North, blacks were prohibited from holding such jobs. When the Civil War began, Forrest offered freedom to 44 of his slaves if they would serve with him in the Confederate army. All 44 agreed. One later deserted; the other 43 served faithfully until the end of the war.

Though they had many chances to leave, they chose to remain loyal to the South and to Forrest. Part of General Forrest's command included his own Escort Company, his Green Berets, made up of the very best soldiers available. This unit, which varied in size from 40-90 men, was the elite of the cavalry. Eight of these picked men were black soldiers and all served gallantly and bravely throughout the war. All were armed with at least 2 pistols and a rifle. Most also carried two additional pistols in saddle holsters. At war's end, when Forrest's cavalry surrendered in May 1865, there were 65 black troopers on the muster roll. Of the soldiers who served under him, Forrest said of the black troops: Finer Confederates never fought.

Forrest was a brilliant cavalryman and courageous soldier. As author Jack Hurst writes: a man possessed of physical valor perhaps unprecedented among his countrymen, as well as, ironically, a man whose social attitudes may well have changed farther in the direction of racial enlightenment over the span of his lifetime than those of most American historical figures.

When Forrest died in 1877 it is noteworthy that his funeral in Memphis was attended not only by a throng of thousands of whites but by hundreds of blacks as well. The funeral procession was over two miles long and was attended by over 10,000 area residents, including 3000 black citizens paying their respects.

Source

15 posted on 03/07/2015 12:33:08 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Crim

When the KKK was first founded, its stance was against northern carpetbaggers and politicians and such. Forrest joined it at this stage. But within a few years it began to develop violent and racist tendencies and when it did Forrest dropped out.


16 posted on 03/07/2015 12:43:32 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: Crim

He helped form the KKK after the war, but called for it’s dissolution in 1869. By 1875 it was dissolved, and he had clearly changed his beliefs.


17 posted on 03/07/2015 12:45:24 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Crim

Lee didn’t even own slaves. He was a supporter of gradual abolition, and fought for the right of self-determination. He wasn’t alone. 80% of confederate soldiers didn’t even own slaves. They were fighting for self determination and to protect their hearths and homes.


18 posted on 03/07/2015 12:46:28 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: Crim
General Robert E. Lee fought for the Tenth Amendment. The ultimate outcome was positive since, today, the former Confederate States are the most God-fearing, liberty-loving, pro-gun, anti-hussein region of America.

Today, the foundation set by Forrest, Davis, Lee and other champions of state's rights has resulted in Dixie rising to lead the rest of the nation. It's the job creator of America with freedom enshrined by strong Right-to-Work laws, near universal gun ownership and high church attendance. The Solid South is back as evidenced by its repudiation of the illegal regime that seized power in 2008. Only Virgina and Florida are apart because of a Yankee invasion of ultra-leftwing DemonRATs who relocated from their northern socialist cesspools.

I have no doubts that the brave men of the Confederacy would oppose the hussein/holder duo with every fiber of their being were these gentlemen with us today.

19 posted on 03/07/2015 12:51:35 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Hugin

Oh yeah...nice guy...

This was written by one of his soldiers after the Fort Pillow massacre:

“The slaughter was awful. Words cannot describe the scene. The poor, deluded, negroes would run up to our men, fall upon their knees, and with uplifted hands scream for mercy but they were ordered to their feet and then shot down. I, with several others, tried to stop the butchery, and at one time had partially succeeded, but General Forrest ordered them shot down like dogs and the carnage continued. Finally our men became sick of blood and the firing ceased”


20 posted on 03/07/2015 12:57:42 PM PST by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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