Posted on 03/06/2015 4:49:16 AM PST by cotton1706
Tea Party Republicans contemplating a bid to oust Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio) shouldn't count on Democrats to help them unseat the Speaker.
And without their support, there is no chance to topple Boehner in this Congress.
A number of right-wing Republicans, long-wary of Boehner's commitment to GOP efforts attacking President Obama's policy priorities, have openly considered a coup in an attempt to transfer the gavel into more conservative hands.
But Democrats from across an ideological spectrum say they'd rather see Boehner remain atop the House than replace him with a more conservative Speaker who would almost certainly be less willing to reach across the aisle in search of compromise. Replacing him with a Tea Party Speaker, they say, would only bring the legislative process already limping along to a screeching halt.
I'd probably vote for Boehner [because] who the hell is going to replace him? [Ted] Yoho?, Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.) said Wednesday, referencing the Florida Tea Party Republican whos fought Boehner on a host of bipartisan compromise bills.
In terms of the institution, I would rather have John Boehner as the Speaker than some of these characters who came here thinking that they're going to change the world, Pascrell added.
Liberal Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.) agreed that for Democrats, replacing Boehner could lead to a worse situation.
Then we would get Scalise or somebody? Geez, come on, said Grijalva, who referenced House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.). We can be suicidal, but not stupid.
Boehner, who has grappled with dissent from the Tea Party wing since he took the Speaker's gavel in 2011, has seen opposition to his reign grow this year, even as he commands the largest GOP majority since the Hoover administration.
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>The difference between Democrats and Republicans? NOTHING.
Too general. The problem is that Democrats still control Congress because 1/3 of Republicans elected on conservative platforms are actually closet Democrats who when needed vote to maintain what actual Democrats have done. They must be forced out of the party before the 2016 primaries. I have suggested a way to do that above.
I'll bet if he had to be in the chamber, they would have let his vote wait until after Boehner had enough "Yays" so he could cast a useless, for-the-folks-back-home "Nay" show vote.
They play this game with the constituents all the time. It's how they manufacture their fictional "Conservative Ratings".
“Assume the dems vote for Boehner to save him. The vote is still a good thing. It would force the hand of all of the pretend conservatives in the HOR.”
That’s exactly right. Get them on the record. A lot of house members got hell from their constituents when they voted for Boehner, and surprise, surprise, the numbers against him increased.
With the people behind them, these members don’t need to fear the leadership removing them.
Sounds like our problem here in the Texas legislature w Joe Strauss.
Great book, I bought it from him.
I live in a safe Democratic area, so you got the same results as I did when I voted.
I’d bitch to my Congressman, but he IS [Ted] Yoho.....
And its also obvious that conservatives on this site and elsewhere are deluded about their electoral strength.
The electoral strength will come, Im convinced, but only AFTER separation from the Democrats in drag who make up the core of the modern Republican Party.
Then, there are the truculent posters who, after a Democrat beats the crappy RINO candidate who threw the race (McCain, Mitt, 2016: Jeb), goes and rails against conservatives for the loss. We're the "purists" who had a "hissy fit" and "stayed home" (never acknowledging the possibility that conservatives may have voted for some other candidate). Gotta love those.
Has this video been put up in its own thread. Really needs exposure.
No way! If he did that, Pelosi would make him actually have to work! He's safe as a Republican obstructionist for the Dems; lots of perks for very little effort.
I'd say compromised. The enemy knows the weaknesses of their opponents, and with Speaker Oompa Loompa, it's alcohol. I imagine Soros ships him plenty of the finest inebriants known to mankind on a regular basis, to keep him in line...
“Its been obvious for years that half of the elected Republicans in Congress, if not more, would enter a coalition government with the Democrats to stop a conservative takeover.”
This is the rise of “The Third Way”.
Capitalism (private owned business) on the right, communism (state owned business) on the left, Third way in the middle.
Third Way is govt and private owned business working together.
As long as you support the govt you can stay in business.
Welcome to Nazi Germany.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act...
Yep, same problem. A Speaker who stays in power with the support of a rump group of toadies in his own party plus a sufficient fraction of the 'opposition' to give him an overall majority, despite the majority of his own caucus opposing him. Thus a TX House that is majority conservative can't get much passed against the will of their supposed GOP Speaker. There is a difference, though. Straus does what he wants; Boehner does what Pelosi wants.
Isn’t it obvious that 99% of “representatives” have either been blackmailed or bought off?
Politics now is nothing more than a power struggle and we are just the useful idiots for the ones who claim “conservative”.
With a few (very few) exceptions D or R makes absolutely no difference other than the R’s try to make excuses why we can’t win on issues.
We are only postponing the inevitable by pretending anything will change.
I am about to the point of voting for the commies so we can get this over with much sooner. I’m tired of watching conservatives continually winning the battle for ideas only to be defeated by our compromising weaselly representatives.
This should tell anyone everything they need to know about Boehner. He’s a disgrace to the Republicans.
A fat, drunken orange disgrace
Let me translate that from BS to English for you:
I would have voted for Boehner but I don’t want to be on record doing so because it’d harm my claim to be conservative.
“Is becoming”?
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