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BNSF oil train derails in rural Illinois; two cars aflame
Reuters ^ | March 5, 2015 | EDWARD MCALLISTER AND CATHERINE NGAI

Posted on 03/05/2015 3:27:05 PM PST by ConservativeInPA

(Reuters) - A BNSF Railway [BNISF.UL] train loaded with crude oil derailed on Thursday afternoon in a rural area south of Galena, Illinois, with two of the tank cars catching fire, according to local officials and the company.

The incident marks the latest in a series of derailments involving trains hauling crude oil, a trend that has put a heightened focus on rail safety.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: energy; illinois; oil; rail
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Pipelines don't derail.
1 posted on 03/05/2015 3:27:05 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
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2 posted on 03/05/2015 3:29:22 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: ConservativeInPA

Either global warming, Bushes fault or Terrorists making work.


3 posted on 03/05/2015 3:30:01 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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You must wait until several dozen people are killed by an oil train derailment. Then maybe “someone” will, may, could, we hope WAKE THE HELL UP. I point out those trains go right through the middle of cities and towns.
These long oil trains are, beyond doubt, an unmitigated catastrophe just waiting to happen.
When it does, the media will cover a huge rise in temperature of one half degree as further evidence of globull warming.
“WHAT OIL WRECK?”


4 posted on 03/05/2015 3:33:07 PM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (N.Y. TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
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Thank you Obama for blocking the pipeline and thank you Warren Buffet for owning this railroad and working to stop the pipeline.
5 posted on 03/05/2015 3:34:45 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Well thank goodness we’re going to have the Keystone Pipeline to stop this sort of disaster .... oh wait.


6 posted on 03/05/2015 3:44:21 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: ConservativeInPA

But Warren Buffet doesn’t profit.


7 posted on 03/05/2015 3:53:08 PM PST by Shady (We are at war again......this time for our lives...)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
First off, the cities and towns were built around the railroads. They were built there to take advantage of the huge variety of goods that travel by rail, including, but not by any means limited to Anhydrous Ammonia, Styrene, gasoline, fuel oil, hydrochloric acid, hydroflouric acid, sulfuric acid, and a wide variety of other substances it just isn't a good idea to bathe in.

Some of them burn, others release vapors which are caustic or deadly, still others require contact. Some can even interact spectacularly.

So is the cargo the problem?

Well, there is one heck of a lot of oil transported in this country daily by rail. We have probably heard about every accident involving a fire, much like spectacular car crashes.

We don't hear much about the boxcar load of toilet paper that rolls over, or the tank car full of milk, so, I'm guessing there is an if it bleeds it leads, but if it burns it gets first place sort of phenomenon going on here.

Let's look at the wrecks. Lac Megantic, where a few dozen people did get killed: cause was an unattended train on a grade had a fire in the engine which was left idling to maintain brake pressure. THat engine was shut down and the pressure in the brake system bled down, and the train freewheeled down grade some distance into town with catastrophic results.

Procedural failure.

Casselton ND: oil hauling train struck derailed grain cars and in turn derailed, with fire.

Failure to stop the train before encountering blocked tracks.

PA: derailment.

Virginia: derailment.

West Virginia: derailment.

I think I'm seeing a pattern, here.

If the trains stay on the tracks, they seem to get where they are going safely (The one in Lac Megantic derailed, too).

If not, there may be a problem.

Maybe the problem isn't the cargo, or the trains, so much as the tracks they are running on.

When you consider all the potentially hazardous and even combustible products which move by rail, it's funny that we seldom hear of any of the other products being involved in a train wreck. Either the amount of oil being transported is orders of magnitude greater so it is more often involved in train wrecks (a possibility), certain areas have bad tracks but we aren't hearing about the other wrecks, or maybe someone is targeting oil trains.

After all, oil is an industry which has been in the administration's cross hairs from day one.

8 posted on 03/05/2015 4:04:03 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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unmitigated disaster waiting to happen

If the Republicans in DC had any desire to get enough votes to override Keystone, it wouldn't have been difficult. US Senators would have a hard time not supporting Keystone if it had been put on them for allowing these horrific rail explosions to occur.

OF COURSE oil should be transported by pipeline instead of highways or rail....DUHHH!!!!

9 posted on 03/05/2015 4:09:07 PM PST by grania
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To: ConservativeInPA

Ah, but the Trans-Canada XL pipeline will not be owned by Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffet).


10 posted on 03/05/2015 4:14:25 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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If the Republicans in DC had any desire to get enough votes to override Keystone, it wouldn't have been difficult.

I would get people out to go door to door along the tracks where the trains roll through Detroit and every other large and small city along the route. I would show people photos from Lake Megantic and other oil train derailments. I would simply state that I am GOP and I want people to know that I was trying to build Keystone to prevent disaster before it happens.

"I just want to make sure that you know I'm not to blame when disaster happens".
11 posted on 03/05/2015 4:23:26 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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The only logical conclusion is that it was all posturing and they didn't want Keystone to pass. Even the ones "on our side" didn't use those indisputable arguments to support pipelines instead of rail transport.

Beyond disgusted.

12 posted on 03/05/2015 4:32:02 PM PST by grania
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Some republicans get it. I’ve talked to Wayne Bradley who is the GOP African American outreach director in Detroit. He talks about the danger posed pretty often.


13 posted on 03/05/2015 4:43:41 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Smokin' Joe

The lac Magnetic tank cars derailed and crashed into each other. I think about 50 died.


14 posted on 03/05/2015 4:45:07 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ConservativeInPA

Yeah, I know, “derailments are common.” Still...


15 posted on 03/05/2015 4:55:10 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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You must wait until several dozen people are killed by an oil train derailment.

Have you heard of Lac-Mégantic?


16 posted on 03/05/2015 5:28:11 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Ha! Pipeline would be safer.


17 posted on 03/05/2015 5:34:32 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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The lac Magnetic tank cars derailed

It derailed because it was left with insufficient handbrakes and no one to keep an eye on it. After it caught fire, the the fireman turned the engine off, loosing the air brakes and it coasted downhill until it couldn't make a turn.

The cause wasn't the condition of the rails, but the lack of care given in handling hazardous cargo.s

18 posted on 03/05/2015 5:34:42 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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The locomotives made it around the curves. The loaded tank cars didn’t. Some got ruptured and others bleved.


19 posted on 03/05/2015 5:44:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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The cause wasn't the condition of the rails, but the lack of care given in handling hazardous cargo

Right. It was a procedural problem the railroad had.

My point in all of that was basically, that absent malice, which has not yet been indicated, either practices or roadbed conditions appear to be the major problems. Without failures on the part of warning and other systems, and without apparent track issues, an incredible amount of oil gets shipped safely every day.

The media don't focus on that, because it isn't sensational enough to be news.

Similarly, we hear about the relatively few plane crashes that happen, not the safe landings.

20 posted on 03/05/2015 5:52:28 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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