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Perhaps there is desirable unintended consequences to this illegal amnesty
self | 3/4/2015 | chrisnj

Posted on 03/04/2015 6:18:23 AM PST by chrisnj

The millions of illegals given the rights to work and drive and freebies, will displace the US citizens who are used to freebies, and, disillusion/anger those who lose heir jobs to these illegals . Let these displaced citizens feel the pain and their resentment grow towards these illegals. We will see if they still vote for the obola kind politicians. When these illegal aliens turn into tax-paying people who lose all the illegals' perks, and are squeezed left and right by the democRATS, we will see if they still love the democRATS. Remember many Latinos are consevative people? Perhaps the rational and more intelligent among these illegals will see the beauty and potential of a conservative government, and help us vote out the democRATS.

This might be just day-dreaming.....

If they can brain-wash them, why can't we?


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1 posted on 03/04/2015 6:18:23 AM PST by chrisnj
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Do you really think the Democrats would dream of helping them join society?

Once here, they will be kept in a state of limbo for as long as possible.


2 posted on 03/04/2015 6:20:59 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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I have long predicted that the Democrat Party will eventually implode into a massive brawl between Blacks and Hispanics over who will be first in the pecking order to receive gubbermint freebies.


3 posted on 03/04/2015 6:22:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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When these illegal aliens turn into tax-paying people who lose all the illegals' perks...

There is the false premise upon which your question/thesis is built.

They won't. They know what their Democrat vote is worth (for now, at least) and the reward is entitlements. Why on earth would anyone in that position actually work and pay taxes?

4 posted on 03/04/2015 6:23:55 AM PST by Gaffer
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Could happen. I just know this is not a country I’ll fight for. Let the implosion begin/continue.


5 posted on 03/04/2015 6:24:42 AM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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This last election, voters DIDN'T vote for Obama's policies. They voted in numbers that met wildest expectations for Republicans that promised to stop him. What we got is....Obama's policies.

The only silver lining is what's happening may speed up the collapse of federal government and the bogus economy. Sooner is better than later. Some people still have survival skills, some assets left, and knowledge of what the US used to be like.

6 posted on 03/04/2015 6:26:02 AM PST by grania
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It’s the same throughout history. When the masses have been pandered to sufficiently enough so that complete and long lasting control is obtained, their votes aren’t needed any more. And, they will be told where to live, where to work, what type of work to do, and what to think.

They will do it - or they will die. In that time and that condition, there is no opposition to blame (save Christians and the like), no capitalists to demonize, no more lying about how they can spend their way to solvency. The buck stops there. And they ARE the buck.


7 posted on 03/04/2015 6:28:00 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Jonty30

Recall the thread from a day or two back outlining how the newly docmented will be processed through “recieving communities” to create a nation within a nation.

“Receiving community” = 21st Century ghetto. As I said in that thread, this is just updated Tammany Hall politics: segregate and isolate the newly documented, provide them with enough benefits to create dependency and then tell them how to vote.

Just about the only hope here is massive organized outreach by Conservative evangelical churches, which might be able to break through the segregation, carrying in a message of liberty, freedom and personal responsibility.


8 posted on 03/04/2015 6:29:26 AM PST by tanknetter
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Legal immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans and depressing wages. We bring in 1.1 legal permanent immigrants a year and 640,000 guest workers annually. The native born are getting screwed. Legalizing 5 million illegals giving them work permits and SSNs just adds to the problem.


9 posted on 03/04/2015 6:30:00 AM PST by kabar
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When these illegal aliens turn into tax-paying people who lose all the illegals' perks, and are squeezed left and right by the democRATS,

Most will get EITCs with the government giving them money.

10 posted on 03/04/2015 6:31:57 AM PST by kabar
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Don’t ever bet against the stupidity of the American voter.


11 posted on 03/04/2015 6:33:52 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Not deniablse = Not falsifiable = Not science = Not even wrong.)
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It’s hard to unteach victimhood.

Human nature being what it is, give somebody a benefit they didn’t earn, tell them they have a right to it, then point out the opposition wants to take it away. Mission accomplished.


12 posted on 03/04/2015 6:36:10 AM PST by FirstFlaBn
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The process that you describe is generational. In the meantime, Democrats rule, and being in charge, can always let in more people to refresh their pool of immigrant voters.


13 posted on 03/04/2015 6:39:24 AM PST by Rockingham
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I've long thought Chamber of Commerce support for immigration was primarily a way to continue the long campaign of "leavening out" our inner cities and reducing the negative economic impact of black violence. Not so much about cheap labor, but about importing a better underclass.

It has worked to an extent in Los Angeles, which is today a less dangerous place than it was 20 years ago. Many violent young blacks have migrated to the Central Valley and made some smaller cities highly dangerous, but the business interests and properties in Los Angeles owned by Chamber of Commerce types have benefited tremendously.

14 posted on 03/04/2015 6:42:57 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: chrisnj; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; Liz; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; ...
RE:”The millions of illegals given the rights to work and drive and freebies, will displace the US citizens who are used to freebies, and, disillusion/anger those who lose heir jobs to these illegals . Let these displaced citizens feel the pain and their resentment grow towards these illegals.”

Its a pleasant thought except of course Dems like Obama will continue to offer them freebees for their votes, paid for by the ‘wealthy’.

He just did it in January again at SOTU, free two years of college, free pre-school. etc, etc, all paid for by raising taxes of the wealthy.

This already polls well and the GOP nominee will have a heck of a time debating against them.

So as Americans lose more jobs Dems will be there promising MORE freebees saying that they are the only one who cares about their pain, just as Obama does.

15 posted on 03/04/2015 6:45:28 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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16 posted on 03/04/2015 7:02:11 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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We can hope that the overload will break down the nigh-unto-unbreakable bureaucracy, leaving us with nothing but return to the basics of the Constitution.


17 posted on 03/04/2015 7:06:27 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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Latinos aren’t conservative—and no, adding tens of millions of Leftist, government-dependent, affirmative action-supported voters does not have an upside.


18 posted on 03/04/2015 7:06:31 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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If they can brain-wash them, why can't we?

Good luck with that.

19 posted on 03/04/2015 7:07:01 AM PST by Rodamala
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I think it's day dreaming, Chris, but it's true that many Mexicans are family oriented and libertarian.

It appears that Amnesty is going to be foisted on the American people--because of the fecklessness, apathy, and general stupidity of millions of Americans.

It may be that Jeb Bush offers the best hope of converting large numbers of Mexican immigrants into Republicans, but, considering what the Republican Party has become, this might prove to be of no advantage.

It appears that the American people are doomed to becoming overwhelmed by a sea of Third World immigrants who have no interest in what made the USA the greatest, richest nation in history and are interested only in the benefits offered them by cynical, self-interested politicians, who intend to establish themselves as the new, permanent American ruling class, ruling over the lower class of immigrants, and relegating the great American middle class to extinction.

Unless the American people can figure out some way to stop this, the politicians will probably get away with it, and the USA as the world has known it will cease to exist.

20 posted on 03/04/2015 7:29:10 AM PST by Savage Beast (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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