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Sweden's Ericsson sues Apple in patent spat
thelocal.se ^ | 28 Feb 2015 | TT/The Local

Posted on 02/28/2015 1:37:04 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

Swedish telecoms group Ericsson announced Friday a lawsuit against US tech giant Apple claiming that its technology was used in iPhones and other wireless devices despite a lapsed licencing agreement.

"Apple currently uses our technology without a license and therefore we are seeking help from the court and the ITC (International Trade Commission)," Ericsson's head of intellectual property, Kasim Alfalahi, said in a statement.

"Features that consumers now take for granted -- like being able to livestream television shows or access their favourite apps from their phone -- rely on the technology we have developed," he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.se ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: apple
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1 posted on 02/28/2015 1:37:04 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2890052/ericsson-seeks-to-block-sales-of-apple-products-in-us-stepping-up-patent-dispute.html


2 posted on 02/28/2015 1:40:05 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

FOAD

Just shoot yourselves with your government mandated bullets


3 posted on 02/28/2015 1:43:11 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"Apple currently uses our technology without a license
Is this the most drawn-out interview process ever?
4 posted on 02/28/2015 1:47:20 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
Another Ericsson v. apple post PING!


Apple already posted Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

5 posted on 02/28/2015 1:59:52 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Repeat of what my ping said on the other post:

This happens every time the Ericsson Patents come up for renewal. Ericsson demands from Apple exorbitant licensing amounts far above the FRAND (Fair, Reasonable, and Non-Discriminatory) rates Ericsson has signed contractual agreements with the Standard Setting Organizations—which accepted their patents for inclusion in the standard over other candidates— to charge every cellular phone maker. Alternately, Ericsson is demanding cross licensing of Apple's iPhone proprietary patents in exchange for their Standards Essential Patents (SEP) which Ericsson has already contractually agreed to license to ALL cell phone makers at FRAND rates. Apple will NOT agree to cross licensing of patents that differentiate their products from the run of the mill cell phones.

This kind of "Patent Holdup" always requires that Apple force the patent holders to sue under the FRAND rules to establish the FRAND rates to be applied, which is what Apple offered in the first place. Apple has been placing that amount in an escrow holding account since this negotiation began. Nokia Ioj pulled the same thing with their SEP patents back when the iPhone was first introduced. . . demanding access to the iPhone patent licenses in exchange for licensing Nokia's SEPs or else pay SEVEN times the going FRAND rate for Nokia's patent portfolio of SEPs required for cellular phones. The court ruled that Apple only had to pay Nokia the going FRAND rate, but the mainstream media and punditry press claimed that Nokia had WON the lawsuit because, under the FRAND rules they had been the ones who had to sue Apple for infringement of their patents. . . so technically it was true, they had won, but not for the 7X FRAND they were demanding. Apple actually won because the court merely enforced the FRAND contract agreement and ordered that Apple pay the FRAND rate which was Apple's argued position going into the lawsuit. That will be the most likely result of this lawsuit. . . which is what has happened in every FRAND case in every country such cases they've been brought.

Some FRAND Patent Holdups in Europe have resulted in the courts invalidating the patents for such egregious conduct. Samsung lost a cell phone SEP patent three or four years ago for bringing a FRAND case against Apple in Germany.

The EU was considering fining Samsung its entire annual profit for such practices two years ago.

6 posted on 02/28/2015 2:01:08 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Seems like everyone is coming out of the woodwork to take a bite out of the apple.


7 posted on 02/28/2015 2:02:52 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Swordmaker
Apple already posted Ping!
You have a link to this item being posted?
8 posted on 02/28/2015 2:05:16 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
You have a link to this item being posted?

Ericsson sues Apple for patent infringement: seeks to ban iphone sales in US

9 posted on 02/28/2015 2:10:57 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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Let me inform you once again your link is a different source. You need to mature, emotionally.


10 posted on 02/28/2015 2:13:35 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Let me inform you once again your link is a different source. You need to mature, emotionally.

Look you insulting immature brat. We don't need multiples of the SAME STORY from different sources muddying up the threads. I'm not offended by your posting but you need an attitude adjustment. It is better for the members of the ping list to have ONE article per subject for discussion than dozens. I've been managing this ping list of over 700 members for more that ten years. I know what works. If you post a thread on an Apple topic, I appreciate it. Ping me and I'll let the list members know, but if it's redundant, I'll tell them. The only one being emotional here is YOU! Get it now???

11 posted on 02/28/2015 2:21:51 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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You have excuses for Apple possibly abusing patents, yet you have issues about different sources being posted?

And that makes sense to you, because you are a Fanboy?


12 posted on 02/28/2015 2:22:50 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Swordmaker
It is better for the members of the ping list to have ONE article per subject for discussion than dozens
So who is forcing you to ping your list, nasty Fanboy?
13 posted on 02/28/2015 2:25:08 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

By the way, posting links inside threads to unrelated articles like this one on the drawn out Apple interview, although interesting, doesn’t work and also muddies up the discussions on the main thread topic. Start a new thread and ping me and I’ll ping the list members. You’ll get more participation.


14 posted on 02/28/2015 2:27:37 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks for your opinion, emotional Liberal Control Freak.


15 posted on 02/28/2015 2:32:33 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Swordmaker
posting links inside threads to unrelated articles
The links I posted are related. Try again.
16 posted on 02/28/2015 2:34:49 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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You have excuses for Apple possibly abusing patents, yet you have issues about different sources being posted?

How about you take advantage of an INFORMED person who knows what is going on and quit being so god damned insulting? It has nothing to do with "fanboy. Or any other insult you Apple haters can sling, but some people ARE experts who are more informed on specialized topics than are you.

Read entirely what I posted. I know what I am talking about. Do you know what SEPs and FRAND are? Do you know what has happened recently in case law on those subjects? I sincerely doubt it. All you can do is start and end with insults.

17 posted on 02/28/2015 2:34:50 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The links I posted are related. Try again.

Tell me how a designer applying for a job at Apple is in any way related to the Ericsson lawsuit besides the job being at Apple? No you just throw insults. Delusional and once again prove the point about the Apple hater sickness. I'm trying to be helpful here and all you can do is be rude, snide, immature, and insulting from the beginning. You've made not one attempt at civility.

18 posted on 02/28/2015 2:41:18 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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Excuse me your self Exalted Highness.

I own my Apple products.

My Apple products don’t own me.

19 posted on 02/28/2015 2:41:21 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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Excuse me your self Exalted Highness.

I own my Apple products.

My Apple products don’t own me.

There's more of that nasty attitude, are you drunk? You came on here with a timber on your shoulder. Why? You attacked me as though I had insulted you personally as if this thread were YOUR personal property, your child. You're being completely irrational.

20 posted on 02/28/2015 2:45:28 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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