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Obama’s Creed: Are we being prepped for 2016′s fake narrative?
patheos.com ^ | 2-2016 | Elizabeth Scalia

Posted on 02/24/2015 3:54:48 PM PST by doug from upland

On Scott Walker and the absolutely absurd media histrionics concerning his refusal to both take responsibility for Rudy Giuliani’s comments, and also confirm President Obama’s Christianity for the world, I can’t help wondering, why does the press seem to want and need Obama to be a Christian? I don’t remember them much caring for it that Dubya was one.

The answer to whether or not someone believes President Obama (or anyone) is a Christian is really simple. If I were a pol, it would go like this:

MSM: Do you think the president is a Christian?

Me: What a weird question. Man says he’s a Christian, I take him at his word.

MSM: You’re not answering the question.

Me: I am answering it the only way a reasonable person can answer it: if a guy says he’s a Christian, I have no reason to doubt him, absent some evidence of behavior that tells me otherwise. Have you heard of any such behavior?

MSM: Well, no!

Me: Then I guess that’s your answer, isn’t it?

Actually, Walker appears to have come close to that sort of response and the press didn’t like it. They wanted the affirmation, or a complete dissembling that could be turned into a disqualifying “gotcha” and a “gaffe.”

“But, Governor, what about your gaffe?” is the game the press loves to play, at least in one direction.

Still, I can’t help thinking, “why?” Why, suddenly, is it so important to the press that this presumptive candidate, Scott Walker, confirm President Obama’s Christianity? Has someone suggested that privately Walker believes differently? Does someone have a tape of him vaguely implying that Obama is not a Christian, and they’re waiting to use that at some future date?

Because otherwise, it seems strange to me that the question even came up. It’s reminiscent of the out-of-the-blue question about contraception that George Stephanopoulos threw at Mitt Romney in ’08. That question proved to be a stage-setter; the foundation upon which the Democrats successfully build an utterly fake narrative of a GOP “war on women” with bonus “your contraception is going to be banned by Catholics and women-haters” narrative.

Are we being prepped for 2016's fake narrative? In Clintonian election years we always hear some variation about Hillary Clinton’s “strong, pragmatic Methodist faith”, and since this Pew study points out that almost all US Presidents have been Christian, is this a tactic to keep everyone talking about how the Democrat nominee — whoever she will be — is a hardy Christian, while pitting “progressive” Christianity against “conservative” Christianity.

Taking the long view, is it all part of a strategy, meant to reframe the idea of faith and conscience itself — one that softens Americans up to the notion that Freedom of Worship, (described by Frank Bruni as “in their pews, homes and hearts”, but not in the public square) is the equivalent of Freedom of Religion?

A question about Obama’s Christianity, six years into his presidency, is so weird that I wonder if it is about to be held up to us as a shining example of what humble faith should be: largely unexpressed in public and deferential to the “greater common good” of government, from which our consciences should be formed in trust and obedience?

That sounds crazy. But then again, suggesting women were about to lose their birth control (and by extension abortion, their careers and all of their dreams) in 2012 sounded crazy too, but the pitch was thrown and the public swung at it, over and over, until 2014, when that ball got overthrown and bases were loaded on wild pitches.

When the fastball is worn out, you go to the change-up. Or the knuckle ball.

On Giuliani’s remarks about Obama and whether or not he loves the country, I expect every GOP contender, in turn, will be asked about it, challenged to affirm Obama’s patriotism.

It’s weird. Why should anyone but Obama have to affirm his creed or his national pride? That’s like someone going into an apartment and saying, “tell us about your neighbor; do you think he’s this? Do you think he is that?” The correct answer is, “I dunno, have you asked him? What does he say? Don’t you have anything more pressing to report on than a private citizen having opinions?”

MSM: But Mayor Giuliani said Obama doesn’t love America, how do you answer for that?

Me: What answer would you like? When did I become responsible for the mind of another person? Is Obama responsible for the mind of Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Harry Reid? Was Obama responsible for Hillary’s idiotic, “at this point what difference does it make?” For that matter, are you responsible for the thoughts of others? Well, actually…you might be, because so much of what we still allow to be called “news” is less about information than formation, isn’t it? I mean, you do form minds when you frame and promote narratives rather than simply reporting stories, don’t you?

Americans have come to really dislike and distrust mainstream media. Given that — and the media’s fealty to whomever the Democrat candidate will be — seems to me it costs nothing for any GOP candidate to, when served gotcha-crap, just hand it right back to them, until they stop it.

I mean, we’re talking politics, here, not reality.

Afterthought:

Since the press is so interested in the thoughts of a man who hasn’t held any sort of office for 14 years, I wonder why they are not also plotzing and carping about this retired Admiral — another private citizen — suggesting that Obama is anti-American and pro-Islamic.

I don’t know if the President is “anti-American”, by the way, or if he’s just a standard-issue-academic-antinationaist (the latter would be my guess) but seriously, why shouldn’t the White House say, “yes, we are pro-Islam”? After all, Obama said the Muslim call to prayer at sunset was “one of the prettiest sounds on earth…”; he went to the UN and declared to the UN that “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. He is certainly not anti-Islam. What’s their problem (or for that matter, the media’s problem) with saying, “you’re damn right! As pro-Islam as George W. Bush was; pro-Islam enough to want to protect it!”

But I suppose that would be too easy, too clear, and it wouldn’t suit the “gotcha” game, which is a shame, because that game is tiresome and the people playing it are ill-serving the country they are so quick to say they love.

Last thoughts:

To my way of thinking a President should want to express a sense of protectiveness over all of the great religions — and their constitutional right, in America, to exercise their belief — just as he should want to protect the right to believe nothing at all. On that, Obama isn’t quite up to par, is he? It would be nice if he felt protective of, say, the Little Sisters of the Poor.

I think Obama is just a strange dude: An American who thinks carrying on about the country is unseemly, and whose praises can therefore seem like reluctant sops, yanked out of his mouth only when votes matter; a Christian who feels no need to shout about his creed, and feels duty-bound to go out of his way to protect other beliefs, all while encroaching upon fellow Christians.

Maybe Obama believes he is being brave and honorable in both cases.

It is, in fact, a courageous thing to temper one’s patriotism with fair critiques; it is courageous to defend the beliefs of others. But in both cases, such courage must be supported by unambiguous baseline pronouncements that reveal (by word and deed) one’s commitment to country and creed. Otherwise, what you get is a giant, confusing and amorphous mess, that has people wondering about you.

Then again, I think Obama likes all the confusion, too. I’ve always believed that he is, in the end, a guy who is comfortable with chaos.

Related:

Instapundit: JAY CARUSO: The Media: When You Attack Obama, You’re Attacking Them: “In Obama they see themselves.”

Heh. Yeah. I actually have written a book about that…

Read more:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theanchoress/2015/02/23/obamas-creed-are-we-being-prepped-for-2016s-fake-narrative/#ixzz3Si2uOKCE


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: lies; media; obama

1 posted on 02/24/2015 3:54:48 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

I don’t think we’re being “prepped” for anything. I think it was a natural question that arose out of Rudy’s challenge to Zero’s patriotism, and expanded to his love of Muslims and his utter unwillingness to tie Islam to any of the terrorism going on.


2 posted on 02/24/2015 3:57:41 PM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: doug from upland

sounds kooky enough to be plausible for this admin.


3 posted on 02/24/2015 4:05:01 PM PST by ckilmer (q)
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To: doug from upland
If Obama were running again, maybe, but since he's not any false narrative about him isn't going to affect the election.

This is a turf battle about context. The media wants to use Giuliani's comments against other Republicans in the way that the writer says: either Republican candidates assert that the president is a Christian or a patriot, or they're maligned for questioning Obama's bona fides, and that's used against the whole party ("fever swamps," etc.)

What Walker's doing is turning this around and making the media themselves the issue, and when that happens, the press gets very uncomfortable. After all, their veto power is at stake.

4 posted on 02/24/2015 4:06:25 PM PST by x
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why does the press seem to want and need Obama to be a Christian

It's a very good question.

5 posted on 02/24/2015 4:10:35 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: doug from upland

Obama feels perfectly justified in saying that those who kill and enslave in the name of Islam aren’t really muslim.

From what I’ve seen of Barack Obama, he uses the identity of being “Christian” to maintain support from the churchgoing black population (David Axelrod confessed that Obama lied about opposing same sex marriage on the grounds that it was a sacred institution between a man and a woman with God in the mix).

Barack has been far more vocal in his admiration of Islam (and has pushed American foreign policy in ways to have advanced Islamic theocratic rule in the Middle East).

I don’t know if he believes in any deity.

From his answers in 2004 (Jesus is not the only way, Jesus is a historical figure), I don’t recognize him as a Christian.


6 posted on 02/24/2015 4:17:35 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: doug from upland
#TheSignOfTheCross

Any time he speaks of Christianity, it comes across as trying to appease those who like mumbo jumbo.

Michelle is happy about those who pray and keep the spirits away.

7 posted on 02/24/2015 4:22:41 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: doug from upland

It was not lost that the CIA found WMD’s
WMDs Were Found in Iraq…CIA Bought 400 Rockets Filled With Sarin Gas

February 16, 2015

Hillarys vote to go to war damaged her in 2008. Probably the main reason she lost the Progressive Base. Don’t think for a minute that the above headline isn’t there by design.


8 posted on 02/24/2015 4:24:13 PM PST by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Reminds me of that fake sign language guy in Africa, just self-conscious gesticulating.


9 posted on 02/24/2015 4:25:01 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: doug from upland

Who am I to judge would have been the best comeback.


10 posted on 02/24/2015 4:29:12 PM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: doug from upland
No one knows another person's heart, but Christians are supposed to be known by their fruit. “The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.” These are not qualities that I would associate with Obama. On the other hand, his allegiance to Islam is on display nearly every day. It makes me think of a saying I have heard many times before - if you were accused of being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you? In Obama’s case, there would not be much evidence to present!
11 posted on 02/24/2015 4:46:39 PM PST by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: doug from upland

Obama demanded the crucifix be covered at Georgetown. There’s your answer.


12 posted on 02/24/2015 5:07:31 PM PST by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: All

I know two avowed atheists who get very angry when you say Obama isn’t a Christian. It makes no sense.


13 posted on 02/24/2015 5:23:00 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are RINO voters.)
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To: doug from upland

Does the Pope crap in the woods?

Is delusion not just a river in Egypt?

Does that previous question not make any sense?

/rhetorical questions


14 posted on 02/24/2015 5:26:36 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: doug from upland
" . . . why does the press seem to want and need Obama to be a Christian?"

It is clear to me: because they don't want us to know the truth about Obama. They thought that if Obama were known to be an atheist or a Muslim or a Marxist, or whatever he really is, that might cost him just enough votes - 2-5% - to lose elections, and they did not want that to happen. They have been shielding Obama from scrutiny for eight years. The press can go to hell.
15 posted on 02/24/2015 6:20:48 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: VerySadAmerican
"I know two avowed atheists who get very angry when you say Obama isn’t a Christian. It makes no sense."

There was a story yesterday saying that Christopher Hitchens and one or two other prominent atheists/agnostics had a strong sense that Obama was an atheist. If they can think that, why can't Christians? It is interesting that these atheists would be so adamant that Obama is a Christian; VERY interesting.

Maybe the reason is that they believe that deception about these things is still needed to win elections, and that if Obama were known to be an atheist he might not have won two elections, and that his pretense of being a Christian helps him further his actual anti-Christian agenda.
16 posted on 02/24/2015 6:26:38 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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