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Movie deals death blow to vicious lies about Vietnam
wnd.com ^ | February 22, 2015 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 02/23/2015 5:48:12 AM PST by rktman

In the 1960s, negative television coverage helped turn American public opinion against the war, the veterans and even the Vietnamese who fought to prevent a communist takeover of South Vietnam.

Actress Jane Fonda, who called U.S. troops murderers, was famously shown sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gunner used to shoot at American planes.

By 1971, John Kerry, a Vietnam veteran and now secretary of state, declared on national TV, “We wish that a merciful God could wipe away our own memories of that service.”

But is what Americans saw on television and in the movies an accurate portrayal of those warriors and their mission to halt the spread of communism?

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Lucky for us there are those that still see their service as honorable. Unlucky that people like fonda and john f'n kohn-heinz-kerry got the press that the subversives wanted. Undermine the war at home and turn the public against the war and in a lot of places the service men and women.
1 posted on 02/23/2015 5:48:12 AM PST by rktman
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I went to our local VFW to play Bingo yesterday. My first time there. I am happy to announce that in the urinals they have placed the “official Hanoi Jane urinal stickers” that I happily aimed and hit center mass.


2 posted on 02/23/2015 5:53:26 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: rktman

Add Cronkite to those slime balls as well.


3 posted on 02/23/2015 5:53:41 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: rktman

I hope that anti-American SOB cronkite is burning in Hades.

The number of US soldiers who died as a result of his broadcasts is countless!

We would/could have won, if not for him.


4 posted on 02/23/2015 5:54:26 AM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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’ Undermine the war at home and turn the public against the war and in a lot of places the service men and women. ‘
The left saw the error of their ways with their treatment of the service men and women and changed their tune.
But we need to stop their undermining military actions. I’ll never forget Harry Reid saying, “The Iraq war is lost” in 2007.


5 posted on 02/23/2015 5:55:44 AM PST by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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My best friend served in Viet Nam... my understanding is that the US never suffered a tactical defeat in that fight.

The politicians lost that one for us...but the politicians were not the ones who took the heat for the loss.

6 posted on 02/23/2015 6:00:35 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: rfreedom4u

That’s a good reason to drink beer.


7 posted on 02/23/2015 6:04:41 AM PST by MisterArtery
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"Many popular films dealing with Vietnam – such as “Apocalypse Now,” “The Deer Hunter,” “Good Morning, Vietnam,” “Rambo” and “Full Metal Jacket” – serve as great entertainment, Botkin said, but they often grossly distort the reality of the warriors who fought courageously to stop the spread of communism."

If Full Metal Jacket would have stopped at the end of boot camp, it would have been a great movie. I did not think that 'The Deer Hunter' was an anti Vietnam Movie. On the contrary, I thought it protrayed people's emotions about the war in a very realistic light. I thought the ending (with them all singing God Bless America in the bar) was a very pro American message. Which was very brave at the time (1978) when you consider that being pro American was not exactly in vogue.
8 posted on 02/23/2015 6:05:14 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: freedumb2003

Well, that and having our hands tied by abusrdly restrictive ROE. Is/are the ROE’s even worse now in A-stan? If you’re not going in with total victory in mind, don’t waste our youngsters lives. Now it seems that if some civilian gets a john f’n kohn-heinz-kerry type splinter wound, the other “civilized” countries jump all over it and threaten war crimes charges. Guess what. War ain’t pretty and bad stuff happens.


9 posted on 02/23/2015 6:07:07 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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I think the first positive thing I ever saw on TV about those serving in Viet Nam was a TV show called Magnum P.I.


10 posted on 02/23/2015 6:08:00 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“when you consider that being pro American was not exactly in vogue. “ Seems like in a lot of circles in 2015 it isn’t exactly in vogue either. :>}


11 posted on 02/23/2015 6:08:56 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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12 posted on 02/23/2015 6:09:16 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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I hope people realize that the LEFT’s war against our military has been going on for years and years.

And .. the Oscars prove my point. The highest grossing movie for quite a long time is pushed aside as a non-entity.

Movie goers .. I hope you realize the HOLLYWOOD-ITES just spit in your face.

I haven’t been to the movies in quite a few years. Why should I spend my dollars to support spoiled rotten, grossly overpaid people who do nothing but write, direct, and star in productions specifically to lie and hide the truth.

When a real movie comes along, “American Sniper”, they make sure it does not get rewarded.

But .. the left has gotten away with far too many attacks upon America .. when are we going to shut our purses to these “radical” people ..??


13 posted on 02/23/2015 6:09:56 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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My big problem with Vietnam was LBJ and not fighting the war to win it.

Dad fought as a Marine in the Pacific between 42 and 45. My uncle fought in the USAAF out of England at the same time. The end game was to beat the enemy, no (well few) holds barred until the enemy were dead or begged for peace. Now we didn’t do this in Korea or Vietnam and unfortunately we didn’t do it in the sand box either. We had the power but we didn’t have the intestinal fortitude.

Until we get back that fortitude, we will remain in this malaise.


14 posted on 02/23/2015 6:09:59 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Hmmm. Wasn’t Thomas a Seal team/frogman leader or something? Dang, that’s a long time ago. Still love the Ferrari. :>}


15 posted on 02/23/2015 6:10:54 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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Tet offensive was a real-time victory against the push that turned into a loss for the US through manipulating public perception.

Victor-Charlie's most potent allies were in positions of political, media, and academic power in the United States. All those who served/drafted had no chance at victory.
16 posted on 02/23/2015 6:11:06 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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My best friend served in Viet Nam... my understanding is that the US never suffered a tactical defeat in that fight. The politicians lost that one for us...but the politicians were not the ones who took the heat for the loss.

Spot on! We never lost an engagement to the commies up north.

When lbj is approving bombing targets you know it's not going to end up well.

17 posted on 02/23/2015 6:11:06 AM PST by ealgeone
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We would/could have won, if not for him.

I'd have to disagree for two reasons:

First, the conduct of operations pretty much ensured there would be no clear victory. Without full commitment to target and invade the North, the best result would have been like the Korean conflict.

Secondly, the Vietnamese were reluctant to do what was necessary to defend themselves from communist takeover. When the locals don't unite and defend their own liberty, the eventual outcome is never good. We're seeing it again in Iraq and Afghanistan.

18 posted on 02/23/2015 6:12:14 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: rktman

Excellent article.

IMO, kerry, fonda, cronkite, and the rest are still guilty of treason.


19 posted on 02/23/2015 6:12:55 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Scouts Out!)
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To: CyberAnt

I read that Mrs. Kyle did an outstanding job at the oscars (night of slime as I see it) but I still don’t (well I really do) get why folks like her associate with the h’wood scumbags. I guess the money speaks. Hopefully jesse ventura won’t be able to get his hands on it.


20 posted on 02/23/2015 6:13:50 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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