Posted on 02/19/2015 7:20:27 PM PST by Kaslin
resident Barack Obama gave a speech at White House’s “Countering Violent Extremism” summit yesterday crammed with predictable feel-good ideas for combating the imaginary root causes of Islamic extremism. And in the midst of arguing that radicalism was principally driven by anger over colonialism, illiteracy, and unemployment, Obama proposed an idea that we should have been abandoned trillions of dollars and many years ago: more democracy.
Here’s how the president laid it out in the Los Angeles Times:
Efforts to counter violent extremism will only succeed if citizens can address legitimate grievances through the democratic process and express themselves through strong civil societies.
First of all, does Obama really believe that extremists have “legitimate grievances?” Are the disaffected youth recruited from the slums of Paris (but, curiously, not from the slums of Rio or Beijing) concerned that France doesn’t offer a strong enough civil society? Are the radicals beheading Christians in North Africa ticked off over a lack of women’s rights in Yemen? Are extremists who target Jews and free-speech enthusiasts in Copenhagen worried about the health of democratic institutions in Europe?
No, it’s the grievances themselves that are the root of the problem. In most Arab countries, the authoritarian leadership is in some ways more liberal than the majority of the citizenry. As bad as these regimes are – and we coddle and enable many of them – almost every time the democratic process has been tried in the Islamic world, it’s produced more extremism and factional violence. So which nation does the president propose would benefit most from more democracy? Pakistan? Iraq? Saudi Arabia? Jordan? How would Christians and Alawites fare in a democratic Syria, do you think?
Perhaps as well as minorities do in a democratic Libya, a place Obama argued Americans had to intervene militarily or the “democratic impulses that are dawning across the region would be eclipsed by the darkest form of dictatorship.” Turns out that democratic impulses can also lead to darkness. There is no Gadhafi regime, but there is anarchy, a fertile recruiting ground for terrorists and a country where Copts can be executed without too many hassles and American consulates can be sacked without any repercussion. All of it enabled, in part, by the president’s unauthorized war (and Congress’ implicit approval of that war) that was meant to help facilitate democracy.
At the same time, the administration punishes the Egyptian government for putting an end to the extremism empowered by democratic impulses. It is Egypt’s al-Sisi – no great friend of liberty, granted – who’s spoken out most forcefully about the future of Islam. Yet the administration has withheld aid from that government until it can “certify that Egypt is taking steps toward democracy.” As if insuring a larger role for the Muslim Brotherhood was in the U.S.’s – or the world’s – best interests.
To put our confused priorities in perspective, the United States condemned the Egyptians for bombing ISIS targets in Libya over the summer, complaining that “outside interference in Libya exacerbates current divisions and undermines Libya’s democratic transition.” (Incredulous italics mine)
Egypt is not only dealing with ISIS in democratic Libya, it is dealing with terrorism originating from democratic Gaza, where Palestinians were offered autonomy and a chance to build a strong civil society, but put Hamas in charge instead. In the West Bank, where the moderates of the PLO run the show, Mahmoud Abbas can’t even hold elections because the will of the people is too extreme for Fatah. In Turkey and in Pakistan, the military is counterbalance to the democratic impulses that would allow theocrats to become members of NATO or nuclear powers.
Democracy can’t work now. Three reasons why: 1. In a open political environment, extremists will always be willing to resort to violence to grab power. 2. Institutions tasked with protecting society from that extremism will no longer be “democratic” once they react. 3. The populace doesn’t have any real desire for a secular democracy, anyway.
According to Pew Research Center polling, given a choice between a leader with a strong hand or a democratic system of government, most Muslims choose democracy. For us, democracy is shorthand for all the things we like about liberalism, but overwhelming percentages of Muslims believe that Islamic law should be the official law of their own nations, which, as we’ve seen, does not “coexist” with our notions of self-determination. With apologies to the president, this knotty situation does not exist because Americans aren’t sensitive enough.
But I’m sympathetic to Michael Gerson’s contention that presidents don’t have the freedom to be honest, constrained by sensitivities and realities of the world. He writes:
Most of those urging Obama to assert that Islam is somehow especially flawed among the great faiths have never been closer to power than a fuse box. There is no possible circumstance in which a president could say such a thing. It would cause a global firestorm, immediately alienating Muslim allies and proxies whom we depend on to help fight the Islamic State and other enemies.
The problem is that the president goes far beyond niceties. For starters, I’m not sure anyone has ever implored him to say Islam is inherently flawed or doomed. But shouldn’t we non-politicians be more sympathetic to M.G. Oprea’s argument that, among other things, referring to Islamist terrorists merely as “violent extremists” constitutes a dangerous attempt to hide from reality? The administration claims it doesn’t want to confer ISIS –a group that Graeme Wood says derives its philosophy “from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam” – the credibility of being called “Islamic.” This fantasy forces the administration to concoct offensive rationalizations and preposterous moral equivalencies that drives disjointed, ineffective policies.
Much like our Middle East “democracy” fantasy ends up bolstering the power and reach of the very same extremists we claim to want to stop.
Hezbollah was folded into the political structure of Lebanon.
The muslim brotherhood was elected to power after the deposing of Mubarak.
See what democracy brings you in that part of the world?
The “root cause” of the majority of terrorism is the Koran.
And Afghanistan is a disaster area.
The mideast needs strong men.
The “pro American” president of Yemen who was recently pushed out by the Houthi was no angel. He was a result of the Arab spring.
This guy makes the case for why GWB was way off base trying to “democratize” Iraq. Bush pi$$ed away literally billions of our hard-earned bucks and thousands of our precious young peoples lives on a “pipe dream.” This was simply a pretext to avenge the supposed attack on his worthless father by Saddam Hussein, when he should have directly attacked Saudi Arabia if he was going to attack anyone over the 911 attacks on our country. And now, here we are getting “softened up” to elect “Shemp” Bush, who loves illegal aliens, common core and all the stuff that “we conservatives” are supposed to be against.
This is called “hope and change”.
BTW, Obama did explain why the terrorists are so violent; it is because Islam has been corrupted by “Western Values”.
“The “root cause” of the majority of terrorism is the Koran.”
Yes, and the corollary here is that ALL of Islam is at it’s core “radical,” because the koran provides ALL it’s adherents with the pretext for violence against ALL non-brelievers. They may not all be jihadists, but they are all in favor of it, and support it.
Clan or tribally based societies, not to mention theocratic societies, cannot make any use of democracy that an American or even a European would recognize.The disenfranchised people might glory in the opportunity to vote but they will vote for the candidate closest to their clan or tribe, no matter what the character or traits or intent of the candidate. Such a democracy can be imposed from outside by a conquering power but cannot arise within and cannot be sustained past the second round of elections.
I posit that Islam is absolutely incompatible with limited, republican government, which is what we are really talking about here - not the bullsh** slogan “democracy.”
Most of the ME can’t handle democracy, they lack the cultural foundation for it.
Bush was wrong, too.
But don't expect 0bama to suggest that. He doesn't know Him either.
How ironic. For six years 0bama has blamed all of his failures on Bush and now he wants to double down on one of Bush’s actual failures. A failure exacerbated by 0bama’s flat refusal to get a Status of Forces agreement that Bush had basically left for him on a silver platter requiring only minimal effort from The Won. What a dildo!
Muzzies wouldn’t know how to handle democracy — it’s not part of the Koran’s teaching and the prophet’s followers will definitely stop this nonsense forthwith.
democracy... when gang raping a victim wins by popularity amongst the rapists and viewers invited... Something muslims know all to well, echoed by Obama’s homosexuals saying “I won”
These inked fingers meant totally sh*t after our troops left the country.
If their fingers would be stained today, they would be chopped off after which these women would lose their heads.
Democracy never works. the majority votes and kills the minority off until there is only one. A republic however is what we have if we can keep it.
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