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When One [Obamacare] Penalty Is Enough (NYT alert)
New York Times ^ | February 19, 2015

Posted on 02/19/2015 7:36:42 AM PST by reaganaut1

Millions of Americans may be in for a shock when they file tax returns and learn that they have to pay a fine for failing to enroll in health insurance in 2014 and an even bigger fine for failing to enroll in 2015 before the enrollment period ended on Feb. 15. While there is nothing they can do to avoid the 2014 fine, which must be paid this year, they could avoid the 2015 fine, payable next year, if the Obama administration allowed them more time to enroll.

The government should open a special enrollment period that lasts beyond April 15, the traditional filing time for most taxpayers. That would be fair to millions of consumers who remain uninformed about the health care law and ignorant about the subsidies it provides and the penalties for failing to enroll. And it would strengthen implementation of health care reform.

The Affordable Care Act requires most Americans to obtain health insurance or, with some exceptions, pay a fine, which is assessed at the time they pay their income taxes. For individual adults who failed to enroll in 2014, the fine is $95 or 1 percent of applicable yearly income, whichever is higher. For individuals who failed to enroll in 2015, the fine will jump to $325 or 2 percent of applicable yearly income, to be paid when taxes are filed next year. That is a big jump that will hurt many people on modest incomes. The fines leap even higher the following year.

President Obama said on Tuesday that 11.4 million people had selected private insurance plans or renewed their coverage in the enrollment period that ended on Feb. 15. Many people cited the threat of penalties if they failed to obtain insurance.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: individualmandate; obamacare
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Hypocrites. This is the law they wanted. If Congress passed a bill to repeal the individual penalties, the NYT would oppose the bill and say the GOP is trying to gut Obamacare. The GOP should do so anyway and let the Rats own the insurance penalties.
1 posted on 02/19/2015 7:36:42 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
Pelosi: "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it."
2 posted on 02/19/2015 7:39:18 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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Finished my taxes and couldn’t find the box to check I have insurance. So downloaded the Federal for and same. Nothing. So I ask how these idiots know that in 2014 I had insurance or is will this crazy thing be on the 2015? What shit!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 02/19/2015 7:40:15 AM PST by Logical me
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I did mine with H&R Block, and doing it online asked me about insurance, and what sort did I have. (shakes head)


4 posted on 02/19/2015 7:45:30 AM PST by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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I never did understand why there needed to be an “enrollment period” anyway. In the private sector, your insurance status can change in any given month, not just during a couple of specific months. I could lose my job outside of the enrollment period, and not have any way to get “affordable” insurance using the Exchange. (That leaves only COBRA, which is not cheap at all.) So I enroll in November; my penalty would be for some numbers of months where I was not covered. That's not the law, but it's a sight more “right” and “moral” than what we currently have.
5 posted on 02/19/2015 7:45:46 AM PST by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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Fining people for not engaging into a private contract.

What could be more un-American than that?


6 posted on 02/19/2015 8:01:27 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Finished my taxes and couldn’t find the box to check I have insurance. So downloaded the Federal for and same. Nothing.

Line 38 on 1040A

7 posted on 02/19/2015 8:07:29 AM PST by 1raider1
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To: reaganaut1

And what about the MSM coverage on the west coast strikes of dock workers ???

Not a single mention of the Obamacare tax on cadillac insurance plans and that that is the NUMBER ONE dispute in the contract negotiations with the unions.

Crickets.


8 posted on 02/19/2015 8:08:41 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: BenLurkin

Not a fine - it’s just a tax. Ask the Supreme Court.


9 posted on 02/19/2015 8:10:36 AM PST by expat2
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To: Logical me

I have succeeded forever in not using my SSN for any medical. I am on my wife’s plan and I have never submitted SSN for myself or dependent, anywhere.

If the I.R.S. form where I have to prove I have insurance, forces me to enter a policy number or insurance company reference number, I suspect that in-time, my SSN that the IRS has, will be given to the insurance company and in-turn to the medical providers that currently do not have it.


10 posted on 02/19/2015 8:12:02 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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Hey, they are just finding out what was in the bill that their idol got over on them. ‘Serves them right!


11 posted on 02/19/2015 8:18:04 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: BenLurkin

[i]Fining people for not engaging into a private contract.

What could be more un-American than that?[/i]

Taxing people for not engaging into a private contract, :) ?


12 posted on 02/19/2015 9:21:40 AM PST by Oily
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“The government should open a special enrollment period that lasts beyond April 15, the traditional filing time for most taxpayers. That would be fair to millions of consumers who remain uninformed about the health care law and ignorant about the subsidies it provides and the penalties for failing to enroll. And it would strengthen implementation of health care reform.”

Fair? The law has been in place for 4 years. The fact that Demcorats thought they would still own congress and the senate 4 years later so they could hide this is their problem.

Kill the damned Bill.


13 posted on 02/19/2015 9:24:17 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: asinclair

Don’t know what plan you’re on, but everyone I’ve been on (both government and private) have enrollment periods.

But they don’t apply if you have a change in situation. If you have a new baby, they can be added any time. If you get married, your wife can be added any time.

But if you suddenly decide to add your 3 year old son to your policy, you can only do it during an enrollment period. If you want to add your wife to your plan later, you can only do it during an enrollment period.

And of course if you start a new job you can be added to the plan at any time. But if you worked for the company for 5 years and suddenly want to get their insurance, you can only do it during an enrollment period.

It’s the “change in situation” that’s the key here.


14 posted on 02/19/2015 10:05:22 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: reaganaut1

nyt = enemies of America


15 posted on 02/19/2015 10:06:28 AM PST by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be defeated.)
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To: reaganaut1

Once again...

It’s not a fine, it’s not a penalty, it’s an Individual Shared Responsibility Payment.

Sharing is good, and so is responsibility.

So why should anyone object to this?


16 posted on 02/19/2015 10:09:27 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: asinclair

Limited enrollment periods for health insurance are a way of reducing the odds of someone waiting until sick to sign up. It is a legal way to manage the risk pool.


17 posted on 02/19/2015 11:49:18 AM PST by tbw2
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To: reaganaut1

Hilarious.

The New York Times pushed for Obamacare and now that they don’t like how it actually works in practice, they want Obama to unilaterally repeal parts of it.

Screw ‘em.


18 posted on 02/19/2015 12:27:06 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: asinclair

The reason there is a short enrollment period is this was the insurance industry’s price for signing onto Obamacare.

If enrollment wasn’t artificially limited, people could wait until they got sick and then sign up to be insured.

The insurance companies hated it so they got Congress to ban a true free market and help them jack up prices.

The joker in the deck of course is that its named the “Affordable Care Act.”


19 posted on 02/19/2015 12:31:09 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tbw2

Yup.

It reduces the risk for insurance companies.

Every one else can no longer buy health insurance any time of the year they want.


20 posted on 02/19/2015 12:33:08 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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