Russia marches on uninhibited in eastern Ukraine

Washington Post ^ | 2/17/2015 | Editorial

[StoneWall Brigade]

Awful just Awful.

[goldstategop]

Why should I care?

The Washington Post endorsed Obama twice for President.

They have no right to complain when he acts as expected.

Liberals complaining about Putin is a little like someone complaining about a bear in the woods.

That’s Russia. It wasn’t that long ago the Left was applauding a “reset” in US-Russia relations.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Why should I care?

Considering you're one of FR's pathological Putinistas, I wouldn't think you capable of any "caring," at least for American interests.

[lavaroise]

Because we were weak, we let Russia wage WWIII and now we cannot go back to the past... Pretty much hook in jaw

[goldstategop]

And our interest in someone else’s civil war is what exactly?

What is our national interest in Ukraine?

Nothing sufficient for Americans to fight and die in Europe’s borderlands.

[lavaroise]

Like with Hitler, we let WWIII start instead of preventing it through force. Sad dam also did the same

[Slambat]

“VLADIMIR PUTIN’S latest victory in Ukraine is turning into a rout.”

Don’t we have a treaty with the Ukraine that in exchange
for their nuclear weapons (the only thing they had to keep
this from happening) we would protect them from this happening? Yea, and Obama expects to be able to negotiate
with Iran, about nuclear weapons.

[BeadCounter]

We aren’t interested in someone else’s civil war but an aggressive possibly one day Muslim nation attacking a Christian nation.

[GeronL]

could very well be true

[GeronL]

It is not a civil war when one nation invades another

[Slambat]

Hay “Nothing sufficient for Americans to fight and die in Europe’s borderlands.” was the same mindset America had
just before WWII. You a repeater. Will it repeat?

context=kidding.

[PGR88]

The story of Russian diplomacy and history for about 300 years from the 1600’s onwards was securing its Southern flank and access to the Black Sea.

I don’t think anyone on this forum quite knows exactly what happened in 2013, but to believe Putin would sit back and allow a Ukraine, with Sevastopol and Crimea, to spin out of Russia’s orbit, is absolute fantasy. Obama, Clinton and whoever made Russian policy seemed to be absolutely stupid on that regard.

[Shadow44]

Exactly. They aren’t giving up the Black Sea Fleet, it’d be like expecting us to give up Norfolk.

I’d like Ukraine to be prosperous, but Russia will risk being burnt to the ground than allow Ukraine to be aligned against them.

[goldstategop]

Russia has an abiding interest in Ukraine.

We don’t.

The notion Russia was simply going to concede Ukraine to the West was always highly delusional.

Russia can only be defeated through war and even that turns out to be temporary.

Neither Napoleon nor Hitler were ever able to subdue it.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

And our interest in someone else’s civil war is what exactly?

Russian troops invading another country is a civil war? You're a useful idiot.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

The story of Russian diplomacy and history for about 300 years from the 1600’s onwards was securing its Southern flank and access to the Black Sea.

The flaws in this thinking are:

1)The Ukrainians had already made an agreement for the port stretching forward many years in exchange for good prices on gas. It was never threatened.

2) The Russkies already took over Crimea and put nukes there. Why are they still invading if this is about protecting their black sea fleet?

3) Since when do we care about the strategic interests of totalitarian countries who use their military might to wage terrorism?

[GeronL]

http://www.quora.com/How-much-are-Russian-soldiers-promised-to-be-paid-for-fighting-in-Ukraine-Who-pays-for-arm-leg-amputations-and-hospital-care-if-they-are-wounded

[cherry]

this is WW3....people don't realize it unless you're in the Ukraine, or getting your head sliced off by ISIS....or if you're in Africa having all the females taken, raped. ..

afterall, the Westminster Dog show must go on..and then there's the Oscars...

and look who we have as our leader.....he's inviting ISIS into our country....

and yet the idiots whoever you are..... YOU voted him in.....disgusting...

[tcrlaf]

“It is not a civil war when one nation invades another”

This crap again??
C’mon already, it’s been a full year of this BS.

If not for the unconstitutional coup, there would be no civil war, there would be no attempted ethnic cleansing of Russians in Ukraine, and Crimea would still have a Ukrainian flag over it.

[Berlin_Freeper]

Putin’s invading Russian Terrorists can only make gains when Ukraine is attacked from behind while surrounding Terrorists or when Ukraine is adhering to a “peace plan”.