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Conservatives not sweating Homeland Security shutdown
thehill.com ^ | 2/15/15 | Christina Marcos

Posted on 02/15/2015 4:33:29 PM PST by cotton1706

Hard-line House GOP conservatives aren’t worried about a looming Department of Homeland Security shutdown as the deadline for congressional action draws near.

Many of the conservative lawmakers who most want to aggressively challenge President Obama's executive actions on immigration think that if push comes to shove, a shutdown will be worth the fight.

And at this point, they don't think there will be any electoral consequences if there is a shutdown.

"I'm just not that scared of sticking to principles and filling campaign promises that we made back home, irrespective of what leadership tells us to do here," said Rep. Curt Clawson (R-Fla.).

"It's worth having this fight," said Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.).

Gone are assurances from Republican lawmakers that there won't be a shutdown later this month.

Most DHS employees are considered "essential," meaning that workers like border patrol agents and Transportation Security Administration employees would remain on the job, albeit without pay. So in the eyes of some lawmakers, a DHS shutdown wouldn't have as much impact as the government-wide shutdown in 2013.

"The shutdown would be extremely limited. It would be only in one department, with only a small percentage of people in that one department. But again, nobody has a goal here of shutting anything down. The goal here is to get the president to get right with the Constitution that he swore an oath to uphold," said Rep. John Fleming (R-La.).

Of course, many Republicans in the House and Senate think allowing DHS to shut down would be a bad idea.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; elections
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It's only moderate republicans who wring their hands over thwarting democrat objectives.
1 posted on 02/15/2015 4:33:29 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

DHS is NOT essential, well except maybe for providing logistic support to illegal aliens, but beyond that they serve no function whatsoever.

Shut it down and leave it that way.


2 posted on 02/15/2015 4:36:29 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: cotton1706

DHS was a mistake from the beginning.


3 posted on 02/15/2015 4:38:12 PM PST by mylife
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To: chris37

DHS includes the Coast Guard.


4 posted on 02/15/2015 4:40:51 PM PST by Tax-chick ("What does it give you, and what does it keep you from getting?")
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To: cotton1706

It is run by appointed muslims


5 posted on 02/15/2015 4:40:58 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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To: chris37

I was told recently about a guy that works with Homeland Security and his job is to hunt feral hogs. That’s right, hunt feral hogs.

I understand the guy is a good ole boy that enjoys hunting. This is his dream job. He gets paid doing what he loves to do — hunt. He carries a AK47 to shoot the hogs.

Unreal what DHS has evolved into. They’re involved with weather forecasting and so many other things they shouldn’t be involved.


6 posted on 02/15/2015 4:42:35 PM PST by boycott
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To: Tax-chick

It can un-include it then.

Coast Guard has been around for a long time, long before this abusive department.


7 posted on 02/15/2015 4:44:13 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: boycott

I’ve got nothing against hunting feral hogs. They canget out of hand real quick.

That is also something that states can do.


8 posted on 02/15/2015 4:45:08 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: cotton1706

shut the whole government down. like it wouldn’t hurt America anymore that it has with keeping it open. Just maybe some money would be saved.


9 posted on 02/15/2015 4:45:28 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: chris37

I disagree with you and strongly believe DHS is essential. That is why the employees will remain on the job and thus, the department really is not going to be shut down.

Having said that, it is my opinion that, unlike the partial shutdown of the entire government a couple of Octobers ago, I support the withholding of some of the funding for DHS as DHS will remain operational and most of the public will care less. I think the GOP can win this political battle.


10 posted on 02/15/2015 4:45:44 PM PST by hawkaw
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To: cotton1706; pookie18
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11 posted on 02/15/2015 4:46:05 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: chris37

The Coast Guard used to be under the Department of the Treasury.

And the absolutely essential feral hog eradication program (see post above) should be under Department of the Interior.


12 posted on 02/15/2015 4:46:15 PM PST by Tax-chick ("What does it give you, and what does it keep you from getting?")
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To: chris37

Maybe so but not DHS. DHS was established to bring CIA, FBI, and other agencies together to protect us against terrorists.


13 posted on 02/15/2015 4:47:47 PM PST by boycott
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To: hondact200

You want to shut down all of the air traffic controls, the military, the coast guard, federal police agencies etc.? Seriously? You seriously want to shut the military etc. down?


14 posted on 02/15/2015 4:49:11 PM PST by hawkaw
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To: cotton1706
"I think a shutdown would be a huge mistake for a whole host of reasons, especially given the fact we have ISIS on the march and terrorism again in Europe," said Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.), who voted against language last month to freeze a program allowing illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children to obtain work permits.

"This strategy was never designed to succeed. Everybody knows that. So now we have to face the reality and do what the American public sent us here to do, which is to govern and fund the Homeland Security department," Dent told The Hill.

So Charlie Dent admits to being a liar.

15 posted on 02/15/2015 4:51:20 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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That is why the employees will remain on the job and thus, the department really is not going to be shut down.

The fed employees want a government shut down...It's like yet another additional tax paid vacation for government employees...

A win win...

16 posted on 02/15/2015 4:51:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: cotton1706

Let me know if they have John Belushi and Gilda Radner live - I’ll turn it on for that.


17 posted on 02/15/2015 4:54:25 PM PST by PAR35
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To: hawkaw

What Dept of DHS is essential? There is more fat and fraud in DHS then in almost any other Gov agency, but; all are very sad these days.


18 posted on 02/15/2015 4:54:39 PM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: PAR35; cotton1706

Sorry about that - posted to the wrong thread


19 posted on 02/15/2015 4:55:08 PM PST by PAR35
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To: hawkaw

Shut down the military?

Get real....

I’ll tell ya want needs to happen, the corrupt government needs to be dramatically reduced in size and scope and this should have occurred decades ago. It should have never been allowed to expand into the all encompassing all controlling monster which is what we have today.


20 posted on 02/15/2015 4:55:13 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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