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Pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine have more weapons than some NATO countries
Ukrinform ^ | 12:06 14.02.2015 | Ukrinform

Posted on 02/14/2015 12:31:24 PM PST by WhiskeyX

KYIV, February 14 /Ukrinform/. Pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine have already more tanks than the armies of some NATO countries and Russia is preparing to send more.

The statement was made by the US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt on his Twitter.

“The separatists now have larger fighting force with more tanks, armored vehicles, heavy artillery

and rocket systems than some NATO and European countries," wrote Pyatt.

In addition, he has published satellite imagery showing the deployment of separatists' Russian anti-aircraft and artillery weapons near the city of Debaltseve, 70 kilometers north of Donetsk.

“We are confident these are Russian military, not separatists'," the US Ambassador to Ukraine said.

He also said that Russia plans to send a large shipment of supplies to “separatists” fighting in eastern Ukraine.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: debaltseve; nato; russia; ukraine

1 posted on 02/14/2015 12:31:24 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

So why don’ they conquer Europe? It’s a lot more valuable than the Ukraine.


2 posted on 02/14/2015 12:35:35 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: WhiskeyX

Doesn’t say much for what has happened to many of the military’s of NATO in the last 20 years, does it.

How many still refuse to spend the required 2% of GDP on their militaries, that is required by the NATO charter?


3 posted on 02/14/2015 12:56:28 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf

They have 705 days to go until Obama leaves office.


4 posted on 02/14/2015 1:05:47 PM PST by scooby321
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To: tcrlaf

There are probably small towns in the US that are as well armed as some NATO countries...


5 posted on 02/14/2015 1:05:54 PM PST by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: WhiskeyX

“We are confident these are Russian military, not separatists’,”

They used to have the common decency to at least PRETEND they needed to prove things.


6 posted on 02/14/2015 1:06:04 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: tcrlaf
I can't recall how many times I've argued with Europeans who smugly told me "America is so backwards, you guys spend so much on your military. You must collectively enjoy killing people. Back in Europe we prefer to spend our money on comfortable jails and "free" college."

Well, now they can suck it. Our military could so easily sock the Russians if they tried to expand westward, but I'd rather watch the Europeans squeal in horror as the reds steamroll them.

7 posted on 02/14/2015 1:06:46 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd ("We are condemned by men who are themselves condemned" -- The Most Reverend Marcel Lefebvre)
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To: WhiskeyX

Can’t Bloomberg just go disarm them?


8 posted on 02/14/2015 1:12:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: WhiskeyX

Welcome to the Eastern front you stupid neo-cons.


9 posted on 02/14/2015 1:14:48 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: WhiskeyX

No mention of the western equipment pouring into Ukraine.


10 posted on 02/14/2015 1:18:39 PM PST by PAR35
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To: mac_truck

Someone has to push back against that globalist, Putin. The paleos won’t.


11 posted on 02/14/2015 1:36:40 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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“No mention of the western equipment pouring into Ukraine.

UK had to admit this week that they got caught providing Saxon armoured vehicles to Ukraine.

Granted, even the Brits say they are “pretty Useless”, but the funny thing is, at least one ALREADY FOR SALE by someone in Ukraine for $72,500, FOB Odessa, Ukraine!

Half the stuff we send to Kiev is either being stolen and sold, or even being sold directly to the rebels.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11412838/Sir-Richard-Dannatt-condemns-armoured-vehicle-transfer-to-Ukraine.html


12 posted on 02/14/2015 1:39:51 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

There is no evidence of the Russians expanding westward.
Just holding Crimea, which is something we have known that they will do even if Nukes, Chemical Agents, and Biological Weapons are required ... since the Crimea War.

Ukraine was spun off as a separate nation on paper, while intended to remain a critical strategic resource as part of a political ploy.

But they were always going to retain it even if that requires total war.

You might read some of the many books we have on Russian Military thought. This stuff was required reading when I was in the Marine Corps (assuming that you ever wanted to make rank) and it is sad to see so many people that didn’t know this was going to happen and openly fantasize that Ukraine can come to a west that isn’t a devastated wreck of what it was before the global war trying to pry Ukraine from Russia will (not might) precipitate.

At the very least I hoped Americans in general would be smart enough to beef up our NBC capacities and prepare our cities and populace to survive such a conflict if the west chooses to go to the mat.


13 posted on 02/14/2015 1:43:51 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Instead of scrapping the A10, maybe we. should reup production and sell some refurbs to Ukraine.


14 posted on 02/14/2015 3:22:14 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: WhiskeyX

I think they have more tanks now than the UK has!


15 posted on 02/14/2015 3:42:03 PM PST by Krosan
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