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How Spelling Keeps Kids From Learning
The Atlantic ^ | February 9 ,2015 | Luba Vangelova

Posted on 02/10/2015 6:30:03 AM PST by C19fan

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To: Da Coyote

Calculus? I can state with fair certainty that the author of this piece doesn’t even know that calculus exists or what it’s for. If she did, she would be bitching about it.


81 posted on 02/10/2015 7:30:48 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: C19fan

When the three “Rs” were being taught, I remember very few kids dropping out of school or not being able to read and write. But then, those kids mostly had two parents in real marriages that cared about their kids and wanted them to succeed in life.


82 posted on 02/10/2015 7:33:47 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“England and America are two countries divided by a common language.” said George Bernard Shaw (also used by Churchill) is a common joke regarding how the English language evolved differently in different places.


83 posted on 02/10/2015 7:34:57 AM PST by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Thanks for reminding me about Esperanto. I have to watch a DVD I recently bought used from Amazon. It is Incubus, a 1960s horror movie starring William Shatner with all the dialog in Esperanto. How can anyone resist that for five dollars?

Dankon por memorigi min pri Esperanto. Mi devas spekti DVD mi aĉetis ĵus uzitaj de Amazon. Estas Inkubo, kun 1960 hororo filmo ĉefrolita William Shatner kun ĉiuj dialogo en Esperanto. Kiel vi povas paroli rezisti ke por kvin dolaroj?

(I have no idea what I just said. I let Google translate it for me.)

A little more seriously, any spelling reform to make spelling match pronunciation would slaughter grammar rules for plurals and past tense. Now you generally add -s for plural and -ed for past tense, but there are many pronunciations for each which would result in many different spellings so you would have kats and dogz for pets.

84 posted on 02/10/2015 7:36:16 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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To: finnsheep

We have some gendered words, for example ships are referred to as “she” and “her”. But there are not many.


85 posted on 02/10/2015 7:36:41 AM PST by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

My guess is that they didn’t have a million different activities that kept them from practicing their reading skills. If the only exposure to reading is at school them they probably won’t be able to read well. Phonics should be mandatory in schools. Make reading and spelling much easier but that might take away from extra curricular activities.

It really is aggravating to see kids in 6th grade that can’t write a complete sentence with proper puncuation and hyphenation. Since when do you hyphenate one syllable words? Amazing how little they actually learn in English grammer!


86 posted on 02/10/2015 7:36:54 AM PST by Happy1947
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To: C19fan

Around here, all grades of ignorance are excused by “I’m just a dumb old country boy/girl”. We sometimes call it Appalachian Ebonics.


87 posted on 02/10/2015 7:40:48 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: LeonardFMason

We had a similar experience in our small CT town school system.
School administrators, teachers and board members completely bought into the Outcome based education fad in the early mid-90’s.
Piped piper “facilitator” came to town offering up OBE whole language - creative / inventive spelling, and Mimosa math program.
Nine teachers voted in favor, without any reference checks to see if the $20,000 crap curriculum actually worked anywhere it was adopted.
Teachers were told to cease phonetic lessons, halt drill n kill math table memorization.
Multi-age classrooms were put into place to help kids and teachers better socialize / contain the teaching methodology.
$80,000 / yr curriculum director encouraged elimination of grades, in favor of a portfolio student assessment.
Teachers opposing the experiment were told to keep silent.
We augmented our kid’s education with Saxon homeschool traditional math and reading lessons at home.
Within one year of the school system adopting OBE, 4, 6, and 8th grade reading and math State academic standard competency test results plummeted to 60% passing.
School system then adopted “new” language arts program called “Reading Recovery” which incorporated some phonetics and spelling instruction.
The town school education experiment went so bad, science and social studies were cut 50% in order to accomodate all of the remedial core reading and math instruction.
Bottom line:
I had the education of a life time, witnessing firsthand what absolute irresponsible fools many “educators” are, and have poor critical thinking skills.
They suffer no consequence for their negiligence, injuring students and taxpayers alike, escaping nicely off in to fat retirement sunset.


88 posted on 02/10/2015 7:42:11 AM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: cripplecreek

“Our constitution is written in cursive. In another generation Americans will have to rely on someone to tell them what it says.”

This is exactly why the Muslims keep their masses illiterate, so only the imams can tell all the idiots what the Koran instructs them to do.


89 posted on 02/10/2015 7:46:18 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: C19fan
When I started school in the first grade in the early 60's, I had never been to Kindergarten or Pre-K. All I knew going in was my ABC's. I had no idea what the letters meant. Once the teachers taught us what sounds the letters made, it was a simple matter to understand how words were constructed as we started reading our Dick, Jane and Sally books. While still in first grade, I started reading library books. They were oriented toward kids, but I was still able to read them.

Once I saw how letters, sounds and words worked it was like Hellen Keller in The Miracle Worker. It was like a code had been cracked and I could understand everything. Sure we have issues with spellings and pronunciations that "break the rules", but we learn the exceptions and move on.

90 posted on 02/10/2015 7:54:42 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
why is it that past generations learned to read without experiencing any of the problems today’s generation is going through

You are not supposed to ask why some students are having trouble learning to read. There is an elephant in the room and we are supposed to ignore it.

91 posted on 02/10/2015 7:58:35 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: HiTech RedNeck; longfellowsmuse

That reminds me... Aren’t we supposed to italicize foreign words when used in written English?


92 posted on 02/10/2015 7:58:51 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: C19fan

This is to accommodate all the new Americans.


93 posted on 02/10/2015 8:00:23 AM PST by uncitizen (They demand we judge them by the color of their skin)
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To: Lorianne

Equally gramatically valid in English is to refer to a ship as “it.” I’ve never heard of any inanimate thing referred to in English as a “he” however. It would seem that “she” is preserved as an honorific.


94 posted on 02/10/2015 8:01:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: JmyBryan

“Chinese is really hard.”

Yes. But over a billion people know Chinese.


95 posted on 02/10/2015 8:01:14 AM PST by rey
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To: WayneS

I have been both anxious AND eager to get started on some projects when I’m concerned about having enough time to finish something I want to work on and do a good job.


96 posted on 02/10/2015 8:02:41 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: C19fan

That is because they do not teach the Trivium.

If children are taught Latin, they will have the root word of nearly 65% of English and a strong understanding of grammar. They will be able to comprehend what constitutes a logical argument, unlike this author.


97 posted on 02/10/2015 8:04:37 AM PST by rey
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I’ve never heard of any inanimate thing referred to in English as a “he” however

I thought of one. Some people used to call Teddy Kennedy "he".

98 posted on 02/10/2015 8:05:09 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: cripplecreek

Improved penmanship would help.


99 posted on 02/10/2015 8:09:02 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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To: WayneS

oh, brrrrrrrrrrt (raspberry)


100 posted on 02/10/2015 8:26:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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