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Still More of President Obama’s Moral Equivalence (VDH)
NRO ^ | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 02/05/2015 11:58:55 AM PST by RoosterRedux

President Obama, at the National Prayer Breakfast this morning, said:

Unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.
This is banal.

The problem with all such high-horse declarations by Obama is his continual omission of historical context and, in this case, his conflation of the frequent with the rare. The Crusades began in 1095, almost a millennium ago; the Inquisition in 1478, now over 500 years past. When the president says “people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ,” he should remember that all religions at the time committed terrible deeds that shock the modern sense of morality — given the savage wars between Christendom and Islam, and the religious purifications and civil discord common to all the religious factional strife that played out, violently, in accord with the ethos of the times.

Slavery was outlawed in the U.S. in 1865. Jim Crow ended officially a half-century ago. Indentured servitude, however, continues, almost exclusively among some Islamic groups in the Middle East and Africa. The caste system and ethnic and religious tribalism that institutionalized discrimination and second-class status, quite akin to Jim Crow, persist in places in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. I doubt today whether a Jew of any nationality would be allowed to immigrate and buy real estate in too many corners of the Islamic Middle East. Outside of the West, women and homosexuals are often treated no differently than in the Seventh Century.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crusades; islam; natlprayerbreakfast; obama; obamaspeech; prayerbreakfast; vdh

1 posted on 02/05/2015 11:58:55 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Fk them, their attitude, censorship and the camel they rode in on.

I make no distinction about Muslims.  Peacable, indifferent, co-conspirators and vile actors.

Islam is a disease and it won't be long before the world becomes the cure.

For the so called peacable Muslims, this is their problem to clean up if they truly want to be inclusive, accepting/accepted and live in peace amongst the whole human species, occupying the same planet.

They can work toward to solving the perception and reality problems and my guys don’t have to get killed trying to attrit them and remove any global religious ambitions they have.

Hindus have about 1.5 billion adherents and they don’t mess with us or anyone else.

“Nothing” from the 500 million Buddhists either.

But, Islam has been at war with the rest of humanity for 1,400 years and I am intolerant?

How so, jerk offs?

The Crusades? Christianities answer to Islam taking over the Holy Lands, Portugal and Spain.

Battle of Tours? Held Islam in check for its geographic expansion.

Queen Isabella finally, after three requests gave Christopher Columbus the money and ships to find an alternative route around The Silk Road, which was controlled by the Muslims.

In 1491 the Muslim hordes were finally removed from Europe and as a coming out party, looking for new wealth and worlds to expand the empire and trade, Chris went in search of that Alternative.

Thank God, he made a mistake and discovered America instead.

For the next 300 years, any expeditions for trade were held for ransom and the men carrying treasures, in search of revenues for their respective countries held as hostages.

Any country who sent ships into Muslim waters was taken and demand was made by the Barbary Pirates and Imams for “restitution”.

WTF were they willing to trade of value for anything we had of value? Nothing.

But, if you wanted to get your stuff across sea and then transported over land, you were going to pay heavily and the whole thing really was a lose/lose.

Now, on the day of inauguration for Thomas Jefferson he received a letter of demand for $1 million per year. Our men, treasures and ships would be given right of passage if the demand was met.

This demand was being given to every nation at that time.

Well, we had just smoked the worlds most powerful armed force and Jefferson was in no mood to be pushed around.

He sent a letter back saying we were coming and while the letter was in transport he directed the ships Enterprise and Constitution be built.

He sent those two ships to Tripoli, along with an Armada.

Without firing a shot Tripoli saw the wisdom of not engaging our ships and relented.

American then doesn’t hear a peep from Muslims until the Robert Kennedy assassination.

Around the time of Jimmy Carter Muslims are again on the rise, very much agitated and on the move around the world.

They overthrow the Shah of Iran and take our American Brothers and Sisters hostage.

Reagan comes into office and Iran must’ve got the message, as they released them freely.

For the last 35 years all we’ve heard is their belligerent Bull Shiite.

Over the last 15 I have heard over and over how they are “hurt” that we, the infidels, are in their lands.

Well, D***kheads. We made those lands, helped you explore, tried to set you up with modernity and you have been resisting the whole time.

Even now, I have idiot fellow Americans who think we should try to reason with them and understand them.

I don’t have any capacity to understand killers and will not waste time trying to break bread with them, while they are looking for the opportunity to break open my head.

Burning a man alive?  In the name of your Gawd?  Uhm, FK allah.

I make no apologies for my views. They are based on observable facts and an extraordinarily long period of religious intolerance, belligerence and outright desire to dominate the rest of us.

Watching in real time the events of the last 15 years ought to inform your conscience and reason should be the basis of your action.

Not some feigned emotion hoping the world will be any different than it currently is.

Those millions in Africa hacked to death for the glory of Allah? That’s a good thing right? Because a bunch of dead Christians is better than peace, the right of the individual to live, pursue happiness and improve the lot of their family.

Boko Haram is more important than 300 little girls? Well, you make sense more and more.

Al Qaeda’s observed acts, stated goals and roach like existence of glorifying death and a heaven that debases women, objectifies them and turns the idea of hope of eternal life into some macabre whorehouse. That idea is worth my respect? The hell it is.

And the latest franchise of ISIL/ISIS? Hacking the heads off reporters and the latest some Japanese guys. In addition to murdering women and children because they didn’t conform to their interpretation of Islam?

Oh yeah. I feel you man. They are beautiful people.

Christians in Iraq? Well, not anymore. The oldest churches, some nearly 2,000 years old have been destroyed.

Christians and their artifacts are now fairy tales in the so called “Cradle of Civilization”.

Sohhhh, FK you and and Islam...

For those who can stomach watching the man burn alive, here is a link via Pamela Geller:

http://pamelageller.com/2015/02/watch-islamic-state-video-of-pilot-being-burnt-alive-jordan-vows-revenge.html/

Islam is for faggots...


2 posted on 02/05/2015 12:01:11 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: RoosterRedux

A little superglue,in the right place,would do wonders.


3 posted on 02/05/2015 12:05:23 PM PST by oldtech
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To: RoosterRedux

4 posted on 02/05/2015 12:10:08 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: RoosterRedux
This is banal.

It's much worse than that.

5 posted on 02/05/2015 12:10:23 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: RoosterRedux
In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ...Obama is a zealot ideologue - he is obsessed with proving that we are all equal - those whites are no better than those blacks - those rich people are no better than those poor people - those accomplished people are no better than those slackers - the reality of what goes on in the everyday world doesn't count when it distracts from what goes on in the comic book world in his mind and his trying to make the rest of the world comply with it......
6 posted on 02/05/2015 12:11:55 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Vendome

7 posted on 02/05/2015 12:12:15 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Vendome

“Get off our high horse?” What an insult from a man who is supposed go be the leader of the free world.

Get off our high horse while his Moslem brethren savagely murder, rape children, and commit unspeakable acts if barbarism. This is not the 11th or 15th centuries.

To make excuses for this type of murderous savagery at a prayer breakfast no less is slap in the face to the world.


8 posted on 02/05/2015 12:12:55 PM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Vendome

There is slime.

There is pond scum.

There is smegma.

There is pig sh*t.

And there is Dorkbama, below it all.

The semi-human thing does not even deserve the extension of the middle finger.

I hold my household toilet in more regard.


9 posted on 02/05/2015 12:13:23 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Intolerant in NJ

The problem isn’t the bare observation — the problem is the insinuation, the implication that is being attempted. And that is what should be challenged head on.

It would have been grand to have had someone stand up at that point and ask him “Explain the Underground Railroad, please!”


10 posted on 02/05/2015 12:14:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Vendome

I was trying/going to get a word in edgewise but you kept crowding me out. Now there is not that much to be said.


11 posted on 02/05/2015 12:28:57 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Da Coyote

There is slime.

There is pond scum.

There is smegma.

There is pig sh*t.

And there is Dorkbama, below it all.

The semi-human thing does not even deserve the extension of the middle finger.

I hold my household toilet in more regard.


BINGO!!!


12 posted on 02/05/2015 12:45:16 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Vendome

Apparently Ferguson is still worse than burning a person alive in his anti-American mind.

Pray America is waking


13 posted on 02/05/2015 12:52:15 PM PST by bray (Palin/Cruz to the WH)
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To: noinfringers2

I have nothing but contempt for that Devil Worshiping, Satanic inspired, Cult of death adorers....


14 posted on 02/05/2015 12:55:22 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: RoosterRedux

Whoever wrote the reference to the crusade in the speech that O read is going to be in big trouble. I seriously doubt that 0 even pre-reads much of what is going to be on the prompter. Would take away from his golf time?


15 posted on 02/05/2015 12:57:46 PM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I can’t believe everyone is picking on the marxist, muslim, petulant, duplicitous, man child just for telling a few lies.
Is everyone trying to damage his self esteem intentionally?
I think maybe everyone needs a few refresher courses on self esteem awareness from their local public school.


16 posted on 02/05/2015 1:11:18 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: RoosterRedux
Slavery was outlawed in the U.S. in 1865. Jim Crow ended officially a half-century ago.

Indentured servitude, however, continues, almost exclusively among some Islamic groups in the Middle East and Africa. The caste system and ethnic and religious tribalism that institutionalized discrimination and second-class status, quite akin to Jim Crow, persist in places in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. ...

Outside of the West, women and homosexuals are often treated no differently than in the Seventh Century.

As usual Hanson knows what he's talking about...

17 posted on 02/05/2015 2:00:19 PM PST by GOPJ (Good Muslims and radical Muslims - two sides of the same coin - intertwined and interdependent.)
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To: eyeamok
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE

In response to President Barack Obama drawing a parallel between the barbaric acts of the Islamic State today with actions by Christians during the Crusades, which ended 700 years ago, evangelist Franklin Graham said there was a difference between Jesus Christ who “taught peace “ and did “not take life” versus Mohammed, who “was a warrior and killed many innocent people.”

Reverend Graham further said that, “True followers of Christ emulate Christ – true followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.”

18 posted on 02/05/2015 7:20:04 PM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: RoosterRedux
This is banal.

It's the argument of a 19-year-old community college student who just "achieved enlightenment" after listening to his socialist history professor for an hour.

The same argument I feel like I'm listening to every time I hear these people expound on world affairs.

19 posted on 02/06/2015 6:03:40 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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