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Homeowners in Poland Borrowed in Swiss Francs, and Now Pay Dearly
nytimes.com ^ | JAN. 28, 2015 | DANNY HAKIM

Posted on 01/30/2015 10:35:35 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

WARSAW — Piotr Szczepaniak, an apartment manager here, had just finished work, checking faucets and making sure rents were paid. After making himself a coffee, he logged on to a Polish social network and noticed that someone had posted the current exchange rate of the Swiss franc.

“I was frozen,” he said, seeing that the franc’s value had soared that day. Like hundreds of thousands of other Eastern Europeans, Mr. Szczepaniak, 46, is paying off a mortgage he took out in francs, instead of his local currency, the zloty.

In an instant, his monthly payment rose by more than 20 percent when Switzerland’s central bank unexpectedly removed a cap on its currency.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: poland; romania; swissfranc
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1 posted on 01/30/2015 10:35:35 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
She says she is now so far behind on her payments, and feels so trapped by her accumulating debts, that she has contemplated suicide.

2 posted on 01/30/2015 10:36:13 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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Romania's central bank rejected calls on Friday for a broad solution to cushioning Swiss franc borrowers, saying proposals such as intervening to strengthen the leu currency would hurt economic growth.
3 posted on 01/30/2015 10:37:44 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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Before the financial crisis gripped Europe, banks heavily marketed loans in Swiss francs, which were available at interest rates a third as high as for loans in Polish zlotys, or even lower.

A difference in long term lending rates of 3 times is a huge sign that those who make and lose billions of dollars a day betting on what currencies will be worth in the future were saying that the zloty would go down against the Swiss franc more certainly than the Washington Generals losing against the Harlem Globetrotters. And you thought that you knew better? About the only way to take that bet is to get a thirty year loan (with the long, long term predictions on rates) and pay it off in a few years... and even then you are playing with fire. Not a bet I would take.

4 posted on 01/30/2015 10:41:26 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
She says she is now so far behind on her payments, and feels so trapped by her accumulating debts, that she has contemplated suicide

She's got it backwards. Take it out on those Swiss "Money Changers in the Temple."

5 posted on 01/30/2015 10:46:46 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Wow. Taking out a mortgage loan that has to be repaid in a currency other than your own income currency?

And I thought ARMs were scary over the long term...

6 posted on 01/30/2015 11:07:46 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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She's got it backwards. Take it out on those Swiss "Money Changers in the Temple."

Why? Did the Swiss force her to take out a loan in a stronger currency? Is it the Swiss' fault their currency is doing so much better than the zloty?

Sounds like she needs to take it out on her own central bank.

7 posted on 01/30/2015 11:11:48 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You pays your monies, and you takes your chances.


8 posted on 01/30/2015 11:13:28 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Here's the “money” statement in the article, no pun intended:

“Before the financial crisis gripped Europe, banks heavily marketed loans in Swiss francs, which were available at interest rates a third as high as for loans in Polish zlotys, or even lower”

So, borrowers were avoiding the high interest rates of mortgages in the home currency and taking out loans with much lower interest rates in Swiss francs. Surely, the borrowers must have wondered why such a large interest-rate differential existed.

9 posted on 01/30/2015 11:21:46 AM PST by riverdawg
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Sounds like she needs to take it out on her own central bank.

O.K. Have it your way.. then she should be pi$$ed at her bank..

My point is you usually "fight" against those that pulled the rug out from under you rather than fold up your tent and die.

In this case the Switzerland central bank unexpectedly removed a cap on its currency. WHY? Probably because they estimated what that would mean in additional interest profit.

That pesky word "unexpectedly" rears it's ugly head once again.

10 posted on 01/30/2015 11:24:54 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: riverdawg

Well surely the people who didn’t make this mistake should be the ones responsible for bailing out those who did...


11 posted on 01/30/2015 11:24:59 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: VideoDoctor

Or removing the rate cap to protect the interest based cash flow, especially before various national governments force the loans to be converted to the local currency.


12 posted on 01/30/2015 11:26:47 AM PST by tbw2
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I doubt there will be a bailout, nor should there be. If there is villain here, it is the European Union which has proposed a huge stimulus program, with predictable consequences for the euro. When the Swiss dropped the caps on swings in the euro/franc exchange rate, the franc rose to equilibrate the currency flows.
13 posted on 01/30/2015 11:37:01 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: VideoDoctor
I misread the article. I thought it was the Polish bank that removed a cap on the Swiss franc.

Sorry.

14 posted on 01/30/2015 11:42:27 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

How’s That European Union Thingy Workin Out For Ya?


15 posted on 01/30/2015 11:47:12 AM PST by McGruff (We have met the enemy and they are our own party.)
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The good news is that we see that making stupid mortgage choices is a human flaw and not just an American one...


16 posted on 01/30/2015 11:56:20 AM PST by Noamie
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To: mikey_hates_everything
And I thought ARMs were scary over the long term...

That is exactly the anaolgy I was thinking of. This is a lot like an ARM, but worse. It's recklessly gambling with your financial future on a sucker's bet. I told my sons a long time ago that if you can't afford the fixed rate mortgage option, you can't afford the mortgage.

17 posted on 01/30/2015 11:56:40 AM PST by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

She should have made it payable in gold, because everyone knows an oz of gold is always equivalent to a man’s suit. So all she has to do is buy suits in zloty’s, trade them for gold and make her mortgage payment.

/Goldbug mode off
/Gold Myth mode off


18 posted on 01/30/2015 12:04:56 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: ShadowAce
I misread the article. I thought it was the Polish bank that removed a cap on the Swiss franc. Sorry.

No problem with that since I've done it myself.

19 posted on 01/30/2015 12:06:26 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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20 posted on 01/30/2015 12:10:34 PM PST by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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