Come'on Granny. People gotta eat.
("Hey hon? Did you get the funeral home on the line yet?")
Mirror in front of nostrils?................
If you like your death panel, you can keep your death panel.
But don’t you dare call them death panels, you ignorant racist TEA-baggers!
I have heard that geriatric care is a great proving ground for various new treatments and techniques. Aside from the obvious sinister implications of this “test,” it would be a shame to lose this area of potential innovation.
This is a test for congress!
If I were that close to death, why would I want to stay in a hospital and catch some disease?
Come'on Granny. People gotta eat.
Last year an older relative of mine was diagnosed with cancer in three organs and the doctor recommended hospice care over treatment and he agreed without reservation.
He did want his last few months in misery even if drawn out a few months. He was in his late 80s and said he was ready to die.
In fact he only went to the hospital and got those tests because a symptom was making him uncomfortable even on painkillers, otherwise he was insisting on staying home
Couldn't charity help terminally ill cancer patients (who want it) instead of raising our taxes or even more debt?
"...I'm sorry sir...we cannot schedule that appointment for you next week to have that melanoma removed because you have not undergone your mandatory annual counseling after age 65...oh, of course you are right. I know you are only 62, but they did move the age down again this year...we have an opening in three months with the counselors office...would you like that?"
This above conversation is fully expected, but It will not be the people you will be FORCED to talk to in order to receive your care, nor the intentional delays in care that will be the most insidiously evil facets of this. It will be the conversations like this one below that will become commonplace that ONLY BEGIN to illustrate what it is all about:
FRIEND OF "JANICE" DISCUSSING "END OF LIFE COUNSELING" IN OBAMACARE : "Hi Jan, how are you? I heard your father is resisting counseling. It must be difficult, I know. There just seems to be so much of that lately. I know I am only 40 years old, but I don't understand why people like your father are so opposed to this.
I went with my mother to her counseling session, and while she was angry because she was supposed to have another five years before she had to go but they moved the age down again, she went anyway. I thought she was really rude to the counseling agent, who was just a young woman only doing her job. Hm.
Someone told me they are only hiring young women as counselors now, because the men who were doing it just got angry too easily and shouted at people to just "sign the damned papers". Hm. I tried to tell my mom why they have to do this, but she said they do it just to get rid of old people to save money.
The counseling agent gave my mom a copy of the book "Death is Joy". I read it, and it makes a lot of sense to me. Of course, when I was going to school, we didn't have to read it, but now they have required classes they take every year beginning in first grade.
Suzie is in third grade and is taking the course this year that deals with the chapter on keeping birth rates down, and Tommy is in his senior year where they cover the financial aspects of care for the elderly. He was so excited, he said that since they have implemented this national care program, the number of elderly people has dropped dramatically, so they can spend more money on programs such as monthly equality checks for the economically disadvantaged and reparations for the descendants of slaves. I think it is wonderful.
He asked me why so many elderly people are so selfish and refuse to accept counseling...I didn't really have an answer for him. Hm. Now, don't be defensive, I am not criticizing your parents.
I am just saying, it is a problem.
They had an hour-long program on PBS about this the other night, and they were saying how the people who are being selfish about this and refusing to take advantage of early exit programs that pay cash to their children are being so self-centered because they grew up in a time where everyone was self-centered and were interested only in money. You know, they showed films from the days of the capitalists where there were people who had what they called 'gas-guzzlers", and they used to make so much more money than they needed to live comfortably, so many people were going without health care because they were taking all the money..."
Then, just wait until they pass legislation for a "Death Benefit" that will be paid to the families of elderly people. That will be the icing on the cake. It will be presented as a compassionate gesture to help the families with their grief, and will put at ease those people slated for "end of life" counseling. I can see the conversation on this as well:
COUNSELOR: Thank you for coming in today, sir. Now, let's see...you have high blood pressure, rheumatoid arthritis but more importantly, positive genetic tags for vascular/heart disease, Alzheimer's, matricular degeneration and three types of cancer, prostate, esophageal and colon. Prostate and colon are very high. We see one of these two expressing itself in the next three years.
ME: Er...really?
COUNSELOR: Yes. This is all very scientifically based, and the results are incontrovertible. There is no mistake.
ME: Ahhh...could I speak to a doctor about this?
COUNSELOR: I am afraid not, sir. The rules are physicians are for direct care only, and nothing else. Federal Statue HCR23.1771-b mandates that I communicate this information to you, and inform you of the various options.
ME: But you don't know anything about medicine! You are a clerk, nothing more! How can I discuss this issue with you?
COUNSELOR: Sir, I have taken all the courses coming through High School, and attended the Life Counseling University courses offered by the government. I graduated in the top half of my class. I do understand the issues here.
ME: But...but...
COUNSELOR: Look, sir. You are getting old, and are soon going to be a burden on society. You don't have cancer right now, and can still think and get around, but for how long? You need to think about your children and their children. We offer a special financial compensation package that will help them bear the grief of your passing, to be paid out upon your death. With your approval, we emailed them an official forms packet before this meeting.
ME: I approved that?
COUNSELOR: Well, yes sir. The electronic copy is right here with your esignature (TURNS SCREEN TO FACE ME).
ME: I never signed that!
COUNSELOR: Sir, didn't you read the codocil that was automatically added at the bottom of your government supplied Will and Last Testament session that we finished up your first End of Life session you had with us last year? You did click the button that said "I approve all the changes" and you did use your voice authentication to say "I do approve".
ME: What! What is going on here? I...
COUNSELOR: Your two sons and your daughter who came in with you today have been in communication with our department on this. (Smiles) I think it is great that the government approves time-off pay for employees to attend these End of Life meetings for their parents. I'll call them in...
ME: Hey! I am not finished discus...
(DOOR OPENS, CHILDREN ENTER)
SON 1: Dad, I am so glad you signed up for the Early Exit Death Benefit. I was really behind on my tax payments for last year, and that will put me over the top...
ME: You...what?
SON 2: Yeah, dad. Billy is graduating from high school, and we want to send him to a quality college, but we could never afford it. But now we might...thanks to you.
Daughter: Oh, Daddy (tears in her eyes) I know none of us live forever, and I will miss you so much, but this money will allow me to pay th license fees to the government so I can open my dream business! Without you...
ME: HEY! WTF is going on here? I am not "ready to die", I feel pretty good, I could live for another twenty years! I didn't sign that damned thing, they just threw all this stuff in front of me! This is effing stupid! (TURNS TO COUNSELOR) Look, I don't know what kind of crap you set in motion, but undo it. I didn't sign up for this.
COUNSELOR: (PRIGGISH, TIGHT LIPPED LOOK ON HIS FACE) Sir...you have already been scheduled for next year, and your family has been paid that benefit in advance as the law allows. We cannot undo it. See the text that you signed (TURNS SCREEN) states explicitly that this if final and cannot be remanded...
ME: (SMASHES SREEN WITH HAND) LOOK! I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS IF YOU HAVE TO BURROW THROUGH THE WIRES BACK TO THE CENTRAL COMPUTER SYSTEM YOURSELF, USING YOUR SLIMEY PENCIL NECK AS A LEG TO DO IT SO YOU CAN UNDO THIS ROYAL F*CKUP ON YOUR PART...
COUNSELOR: (HAND CUPPED OVER SPEAKER, EYES ON ME, WHISPERING) We have a 22-22 in here...get in here right away...
DAUGHTER: (WAILS) How could you be so selfish?
SON 1: Great. I might as well go down to the Tax Police right now to get fitted for the volunteer industry uniform...
COUNSELOR: How am I going to tell Billy he can't go to the Barack Obama University? How?
DOOR OPENS, BURLY UNION GUYS IN BLACK COVERALLS RUN UP TO ME AND TASE ME. ALL GOES BLACK
I am not a knee-jerk Sean Hannity conservative shouting "death panel" every time end of life is mentioned in conjunction with health insurance or the medical system. But I am a traditional Catholic and social conservative. I do not believe life should be prolonged in extremis at all costs (financially, emotionally, and pain-wise), just because technically it can be done. Nothing in our religious background tells us it should be done.
Yeah, #1 "Age ≥65"? #2 "Being admitted via emergency this hospitalisation"?.... Why not #1 "Age ≥ 0? #2 "Sitting on a park bench somewhere"?)
Step 1. death test.
Step 2. Government says “no treatment”
Step 3. Government says “free euthanasia”
I hate what this country has become.
If I was administered a death test by some scumbag government obamacare goon I would make them sure that if these tests continue I will spend the rest of my days in a federal pen, and leave it at that.
The list, Ping
Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list
So that is the chosen method by which to introduce the death panels—with cheerfulness. Hell, people want to die at home.
Doc: "I'm sorry to tell you, Mr. Drill, but it's terminal."
BtD: "Uh, what is? I'm here for my bunions."
Doc: "Bunions are only a sign of a much larger problem, Mr. Drill."
BtD: "But I feel fine, Doc, honest. Well, except for the bunions. What else is wrong with me?"
Doc: "Pull out yer wallet."
(BtD pulls out wallet.)
Doc: "That party listing there? Independent. That's one problem. Date of Birth? That's another one."
BtD: "Well, OK, I guess I'll just have to be content with being bunioned to death. See ya, Doc."
Doc: (Pulls sleeve) "Not so fast, Mr. Drill. We can't let you out of here with a bad case of bunions. They might spread."
BtD: "BUNIONS AREN'T CONTAGIOUS! LEGGO ME!"
Doc: (Nods toward two huge attendants)
BtD: "Wait! Where we going? What's that sign, 'Organ Harvesting'?"
Doc: "Here, now it's just one little pill, Mr. Drill, and you'll feel much better. Your bunion organs are fine. The rest of them will have to go."
Death-panels ping
““Elderly people who are dying need to be protected from heroic but intrusive live-saving hospital interventions that often only prolong suffering rather than enhance quality of remaining life.”
The checklist is only meant to be used for patients aged 65 or over and a number of factors must combine for death to be considered “unavoidable”.”
“Dr Cardona-Morrel said the test was already being used in some Irish and US hospitals, and she hoped it would be in use in Australian hospitals by the end of the year.”
http://www.smh.com.au/national/cristal-test-determines-likelihood-of-death-within-30-days-20150125-12xt4v.html
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The death test is to protect the elderly. Hmmm....
Exactly which hospitals in the US are using the death test?
“Actually, I’m a conservative Republican.”
“Oh, well you’re going on the death list, that’s for certain.”
“You know, it’s a funny thing. I’ve got an older brother, and every time a doctor wanted to euthanize him, before they could sign the paperwork they had an unfortunate, fatal accident. And yet my brother is still walking around. Fancy that.”