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The Most Insidious Line In The State Of The Union Address?
Forbes ^ | January 22, 2015 | George Leef

Posted on 01/23/2015 5:46:33 AM PST by reaganaut1

President Obama’s penultimate SOTU was notable for its audacity in demanding an even more expansive role for the federal government. Although trust in government has plummeted during his relentlessly statist administration, the president wants Americans to rally behind his belief that more federal mandates and spending will “turn the page” and make the country great.

I would like to single out one especially wrong-headed idea – that Congress should amend the Fair Labor Standards Act, requiring employers to pay many workers more.

Obama supports increasing the federal minimum wage to $10.10 per hour. In his speech, he argued for it this way: “And to everyone in this Congress who still refuses to raise the minimum wage, I say this: If you truly believe you could work full time and support a family on less than $15,000 a year, go try it. If not, vote to give millions of the hardest-working people in America a raise.”

There is much to be said against raising the minimum wage, or even having such a law at all.

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Pretending that their supposedly compassionate programs have no adverse effects is a well-worn part of the political playbook. Barack Obama can look you straight in the eye and say that everyone gains from following him on the minimum wage, just as he asserted that passage of the “Affordable Care Act” would help millions and hurt nobody.

But what I want to focus on is the way Obama made his pitch: It’s hard to support a family on less than $15,000 per year, therefore politicians should give them a raise.

Those four words illuminate the appeal of minimum wage laws to “progressives.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: georgeleef; minimumwage; sotu
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1 posted on 01/23/2015 5:46:33 AM PST by reaganaut1
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I say this: If you truly believe you could work full time and support a family on less than $15,000 a year, go try it. If not, vote to give millions of the hardest-working people in America a raise.”

Straw man. Who said that they could work full time and support a family on less than $15,000 a year?

2 posted on 01/23/2015 5:49:29 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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If FORBES so believes in earning things then shouldn’t they also believe in illegals going home and coming to this country legally and EARNING their citizenship?


3 posted on 01/23/2015 5:54:44 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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politicians should give them a raise

That truly is wrong-headed. It suggests that the government is the boss of business, and that is corporate socialism. The government owns the businesses and tells them what to do.

I have no love lost on many of our businesses, however, when they undercut the free market by bringing in illegal immigrants and undercutting prevailing wages. That is just as big an attack on workers as is the government forcing a minimum wage.

The truth is that we have a group of free market small businesses that are trying to make it on their own, but the government kills them with wage laws and competition kills them by hiring illegal help to undercut prices on them.

Combine that with the so-called 'free trade' deals that also enables foreign companies to undercut their prices, and American businesses trying to do it the right way are between a rock and a hard place. Workers get hurt from those same directions.

Whatever it takes to support a true free market is the direction we should be going. That's what's best for our economy.

4 posted on 01/23/2015 5:57:58 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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He does not care what it costs, if it works or what the consequences are.
It's a Progressive Mantra thing.
They'd have you believe Rich Businesses are paying for it, not you.

5 posted on 01/23/2015 6:00:12 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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The fact that so many people are willing to look to the Federal Government, and not their own initiative, to increase their income proves to me that the battle is pretty much lost.


6 posted on 01/23/2015 6:01:03 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sooth2222

How many of Obamites live on $15K a year, and don’t work hard?


7 posted on 01/23/2015 6:02:33 AM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: xzins

I thought the ‘we turned the corner’ or however he phrased it was insidious: WHO turned WHAT corner!?!


8 posted on 01/23/2015 6:02:51 AM PST by txhurl
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Aren't many union workers paid X times minimum wage according to their contracts?
If so, all of them gets a raise for doing nothing extra.

9 posted on 01/23/2015 6:04:20 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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It’s hard to support a family on less than $15,000 per year, therefore politicians should give them a raise.....Fine. Politicians MUST pay the difference out of their salaries, perks, retirement, health care and time off. All government employees will make $20-25,00 a year. Problem solved.


10 posted on 01/23/2015 6:06:57 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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Just another expression of ø’s enemy islamism.


11 posted on 01/23/2015 6:07:19 AM PST by onedoug
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12 posted on 01/23/2015 6:08:12 AM PST by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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To: Sooth2222
That's it exactly. Minimum wage jobs are starter jobs, not career choices. Working minimum wage? Yeah, you're going to be living in your parents basement and driving a Toyota almost as old as you are (if you have a car at all). Or you're going to be out "on your own" with 2 or 3 room-mates wedged in a dumpy little apartment and you're going to know a dozen ways to prepare Ramen.

Minimum wage jobs get you by as you allegedly acquire real-world skills and experience that prepare you for a better job, better career choice. You want a nice place, nice car, maybe start a family? Then you need to do more, work harder and smarter in life. You need to do more than punch a time-clock and just show up for a minimum wage job.

13 posted on 01/23/2015 6:09:21 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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There was no audacity in the SOTU.

It was the gasping of a lame duck who was playing to his core Progressive supporters and the Liberal press and historians who will be the ones who get to pass judgment on his Presidency and legacy.

Which he knows, at this point, will at best be summarized as “Could have been one of the greats of history, if it weren’t for those evil obstructionist Republicans”

And political martyrdom being acceptable, he’ll take that judgement gladly.


14 posted on 01/23/2015 6:14:38 AM PST by tanknetter
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:: If you truly believe you could work full time and support a family on less than $15,000 a year, go try it. If not, vote to give millions of the hardest-working people in America a raise.” ::

(1) This is the modern day version of Marie Antoinette’s famous phrase.

(2) by using the term “give millions of the hardest-working people in America a raise” exposes the fascist concept that all wages are controlled, primarily, by the central (federal) government.

Indeed, here is evidence that Mugabe IS a fascist. That the media is carrying his water??

Lets look back to CNN’s Susan Roesgen in Chicago, circa 2009:
http://chriscommons.blogspot.com/2009/04/cnn-reporter-challenges-chicago-tea.html


15 posted on 01/23/2015 6:15:24 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: BitWielder1

It’s true. And really never mentioned. It’s like when they say that they support education, in a way. What’s really said is they support the NEA.


16 posted on 01/23/2015 6:21:47 AM PST by WorksinKOP
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“Aren’t many union workers paid X times minimum wage according to their contracts?
If so, all of them gets a raise for doing nothing extra.”

Give that man a kewpie doll. That’s exactly what Obama is doing, trying to give unions a big, fat present in return for all their donations!


17 posted on 01/23/2015 6:37:27 AM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Sooth2222

The lie that a minimum wage has no harmful economic effect can be revealed by proposing to raise it from $10/hr, to $10,000/hr. Why stop there, why not $10 Trillion per hour?


18 posted on 01/23/2015 6:38:59 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: reaganaut1

The single worst line of the SOTU was when Obama referred to his oath to “do what he thought was best for the American people”, to to faithful execute the laws of the U.S. and protect the Constitution.


19 posted on 01/23/2015 6:45:30 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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THIS!!!! My jaw dropped when I heard hem say this.


20 posted on 01/23/2015 6:51:55 AM PST by lakeman (Semper Fi)
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