Posted on 01/20/2015 1:22:09 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
...Russian human rights activist Elena Vasilieva reported on her website that over 382 Russian soldiers died in Ukraine between January 16 and 19, which corroborates reports that Russian soldiers were, in fact, in Ukrainian territory.
“[I] came back from the war zone. It is impossible to call it an ATO [anti-terrorist operation] zone – it is a real merciless war there,” she wrote. “I’m already afraid to write these numbers. The Russian army has huge losses over the past three days. 382 people – selected Special Forces, marines, paratroopers. Up to 500 injured. More likely the number of wounded is much higher. But we have no access to the full information about the injured from the Russian side.”
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Meaning, there's something going on, but not as severe as claimed.
If the numbers of dead and wounded are even half what’s reported that’s still a major loss over a couple of days. This can’t be hidden for ever and there will be some sort of reaction “at home”.
More Russians into Ukraine? Must be NATO’s fault. Nothing is ever Pootie’s fault.
Putin should know that he can just take over all of Ukraine. The rest of the world will do nothing.
But, but, Right Sector!
Sadly, there is nothing we can do about it.
I would like to thank the Chairmanship for calling this Special meeting of the Permanent Council at this critical moment, and to thank Ambassador Apakan and Ambassador Tagliavini for their briefings. I would also like to extend our thanks to Ambassador Tagliavini for her tireless efforts to support the signatories of the Minsk Protocol and agreement in the implementation of the commitments they made in September. Ambassador Tagliavini, we commend you for your determination to bring peace in the face of Russian intransigence. Ambassador Apakan, we thank you, and indeed all of those working as part of the Special Monitoring Mission, for your efforts to monitor the ceasefire, despite the dangerous circumstances prevailing in many areas under separatist control in eastern Ukraine.
Colleagues, it is worth spending just a few minutes to review how we got to today. In April of last year, following Russia’s occupation and attempted annexation of Crimea, Russia-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine began seizing and occupying government buildings, as had transpired in Crimea. The Government of Ukraine responded as any sovereign government would; it pressed back against the armed groups illegally operating on its territory. Despite some initial setbacks, the government’s forces made gains against the separatists over the next several months until, in August, it began to look as though the government’s security forces would secure the upper hand against the separatists. Meanwhile, Russia took every opportunity to destabilize the situation both by supporting the separatists with personnel, training, materiel, and financing as well as by deploying a massive build-up of Russia military forces at its border with Ukraine.
At this stage, Russia began to elevate the level of its interference in the conflict by actively deploying Russian military units in Ukraine. Satellite imagery on August 26 showed Russian combat units southeast of Donetsk, on Ukrainian territory. That same day, Ukrainian forces detained regular Russian Army personnel from the 9th brigade near Luhansk. Russia fired Grad rockets from inside Russia at Ukrainian positions in Novoazovsk, and then attacked with two columns of Russian armored vehicles and tanks.
The week after this armed intervention and escalation by Russia, in September, Presidents Poroshenko and Putin agreed to a ceasefire and to address the crisis through the September 5 Minsk Protocol – followed by a plan for implementing certain elements of the ceasefire, as elaborated in the September 19 Minsk Memorandum. The Minsk agreements – signed by representatives of Ukraine, Russia, the separatists, and Ambassador Tagliavini – are the best foundation for a peaceful resolution to the crisis. The sides made many common commitments in the agreements, including the commitment to respect an immediate ceasefire. The commitment to allow the OSCE to monitor the Russian-Ukrainian border with the creation of security zones in the border regions of Ukraine and the Russian Federation – a commitment the importance of which recent events have proved. The commitment to immediate release of all hostages. And the September 19 Minsk Memorandum also established an agreed ceasefire line and called for the withdrawal of heavy weapons from within 15 kilometers of that line.
In the months since the sides made these agreements in Minsk, we have consistently seen the Ukrainian side make good faith efforts to implement the agreements and build a peaceful resolution to the crisis. In contrast, Russia and the separatists have stymied every attempt by the Ukrainian side and the international community to resolve this crisis peacefully. There has been near constant shelling in recent days, with hundreds of rockets and other heavy weapons fired. If Russia were not sending heavy weapons across the border this violence would not be happening. Instead of facilitating and implementing the Minsk agreement, Russia and the separatists it backs have pushed to expand their area of control beyond the agreed ceasefire line. For example, some of the heaviest fighting we have seen in recent days has been caused by separatist attempts to wrest control of the village of Pisky from government forces. We have also seen heavy shelling in Debaltseve. It is not a coincidence that, as Ambassador Apakan has related again today, violations of the ceasefire have centered around four points of strategic value held by the Ukrainian government. It is all well and good to call on all sides to observe the ceasefire, but we must all also recognize that when you and I agree to a pact of non-violence, and you try to strangle me, we don’t have equal culpability if I resist your violent attack.
Now that Ukraine is again actively defending its territory, Russia is cynically calling for a new peace plan and a renegotiated ceasefire. The agreed parameters of the ceasefire already exist. What we need is not a new agreement. What we need is serious implementation of the Minsk agreement by Russia and the separatists it backs: to respect the ceasefire that has already been agreed; to allow the OSCE to monitor the entire length of Russia’s border with Ukraine; and to release all hostages and illegally detained persons, including Nadia Savchenko and Oleg Sentsov, who are being held inside Russia. We don’t need any new agreements. We need Russia to honor the agreements it has already made.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Good old Daniel B. Bauer.
Holds a DPhil in international relations from the University of Oxford, where he was a Marshall Scholar, with a dissertation entitled The ultimate sacrifice: death, duty, and heroism in just war theory and in the ethics of intervention. He received his undergraduate degree from Harvard University in social studies and African American studies.
And best of all, Baer is openly gay.
That’s right. Takes it right up the Wazoo. And he has done a PhD study on Death, Duty, and being a Hero at Oxford. Hell, I don’t know about you, but that almost makes him a Ranger or a Marine in my book! And Obama appointed him into the State Department!
I guess we should listen to the rump ranger when he discusses the Uke rump parliament! I never knew that REALLY meant “rump”!
THAT’S your boy! Lol,,, ill be on the floor laughing a few minutes. (Snicker)
Gotta say SOMETHING to cover for the very heavy UK losses of the last few days. They really walked into a buzz saw.
If the claims of the captured UK Colonel are true, that they were told they were going in to recover wounded in a terminal ALREADY CONTROLLED by the Uk’s, and command knew it wasn’t, someone should hang.
Captioned LifeNews videos:
Givni with Uk Prisoners, including the captured colonel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGTygMhbf-0
Motorola Lifenews interview, inside the new terminal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xopPX26zZGs#t=83
Gotta say SOMETHING to cover for the very heavy UK losses of the last few days.Sorry for you but the source is Russian
Russia is also moving in more aerial forces to the area
“If the numbers of dead and wounded are even half what’s reported that’s still a major loss over a couple of days.”
If reports are true, the UK’s REALLY walked into it. A Kasserine Pass kinda walked in to it.
Kiev has made a HUGE propaganda deal about the “cyborgs. They were pushed out of the airport a week ago, but Kiev just couldn’t admit it. So they try to retake it.
One column walks into a well-sited and prepared artillery zone, and gets blasted. The other gets lost in the fog, then stumbles into an anti-armor minefield, then it to gets blasted. Still another unit refuses to come to the aid of the units getting hammered.
The rebels counter-attack on both flanks of the airport. the East strike doesn’t gain much ground, but the one on the west side pushes into an important village, flanking any future attacks.
The source could be Martian. It would still say the same.
“Russia is also moving in more aerial forces to the area”
I’ve seen a couple of UK sources claiming that, but is there anything backing it up? We have heard these kinds of claims before.
You are ridiculous to post with.
You go from error to absurdity without hesitation or any sense of self dignity.
YOU are the one refusing to learn, not me. I watch ALL sources for Info.
You might want switch to decaf while you are at it then.
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