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How the West Destroyed Libya
FrontPage Magazine ^ | January 13, 2015 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 01/13/2015 5:06:34 AM PST by SJackson

How the West Destroyed Libya

Posted By Raymond Ibrahim On January 13, 2015 @ 12:10 am In Daily Mailer,FrontPage | 1 Comment

The full impact of Western intervention in Libya was recently highlighted during a televised interview of Worlds Apart with guest Hanne Nabintu Herland, a Norwegian author and historian who was born and raised in Africa for 20 years.

At one point while talking about Libya, Herland firmly asserted that:

In a just world, the political leaders in the West, that have done such atrocities towards other nations and other cultures, should have been sent to the Hague [International Criminal Court], and judged at the Hague, for atrocities against humanity.

Before that, the African-born, Norwegian author said:

Libya is the worst example of Western countries’ assault in modern history; it’s a horrible thing to be a European intellectual and to watch your own political leaders go ahead and engage in something like this.  In Norway, for example, when it comes to something like the Libyan war … [political leaders] sent MSM messages to the other people in parliament; it was never a discussion in parliament, it was an MSM saying “Let’s bomb because someone called from America.”  We [Norway] bombed 588 bombs over roads, and water, and cities in Libya at that time.  And we had a large documentary in Norway, after that, where the fighters, the pilots that flew over Libya and dropped these bombs, they actually said in the documentary that “We were sent up and we weren’t even told what to bomb—just bomb something that looks valuable.”

Herland also pointed out that, according to UN figures, Gaddafi’s Libya was once the most prosperous nation in Africa. While Oksana Boyko, the host, sometimes disagreed with Herland, she agreed about the West’s counterproductive role, pointing out that Gaddafi “was very active in trying to advance women’s rights, he brought a lot of women into universities and the labor force [a thing few people in the West know, as usual, thanks to the “MSM”] and now what people and women in Libya are facing is Sharia [Islamic law], with the possibility of some of them being sold to ISIS fighters as virgin brides.”

Indeed, that the jihadis and other “ISIS” type militants gained the most from Western intervention in Libya cannot be denied.  Simply looking at the treatment of Christian minorities—the litmus test of the radicalization of any Muslim society—proves this.

Thus, today, Monday, January 12, “A Libyan affiliate of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has claimed the abduction of 21 Coptic Christians and released pictures of the captives.”  It is not clear if these 21 are in addition to the 13 Christians kidnapped  days earlier on January 3.

Then, around 2:30 a.m., masked men burst into a housing complex in Sirte, Libya.  The militants went room to room checking ID cards to separate Muslims from Christians, seizing only the latter.  They handcuffed the Christians and rode off with them.

(Segregating Christians from Muslims is a common procedure around the Islamic world.  For example, last November, after members from the Islamic organization Al Shabaab hijacked a bus carrying 60 passengers in Kenya, they singled out and massacred the 28 non-Muslim passengers, the Christians.  In October 2012 in Nigeria, Boko Haram jihadis stormed the Federal Polytechnic College, “separated the Christian students from the Muslim students, addressed each victim by name, questioned them, and then proceeded to shoot them or slit their throat,” killing up to 30 Christians.)

According to Hanna Aziz, a Christian who was concealed in his room when the other Christians were seized in Libya, “While checking IDs, Muslims were left aside while Christians were grabbed….  I heard my friends screaming but they were quickly shushed at gunpoint. After that, we heard nothing.”

Three of those seized were related to Aziz, who mournfully adds, “I am still in my room waiting for them to take me. I want to die with them.”

A few days earlier, also in Sirte, Libya,  a Christian father, mother, and young daughter were slaughtered reportedly by Ansar al-Sharia—the “Supporters of Islamic Law,” or the Libyan version of ISIS that rose to power soon after the overthrow of Gaddafi.

On December 23, members of the Islamic group raided the Christian household, killing the father and mother, a doctor and a pharmacist, respectively, and kidnapping 13-year-old Katherine.  Days later, the girl’s body was found in the Libyan desert—shot three times, twice in the head, once in the back (graphic images here).

As for motive, nothing was stolen from the household, even though money and jewelry were clearly visible.  According to the girl’s uncle, the reason this particular family was targeted is because “they are a Christian family—persecuted.”

In short, as I wrote nearly a year ago, it continues to be “open season on Christians in Libya.”  In February, 2014, after Ansar al-Sharia offered a reward to any Benghazi resident who helped round up and execute the nation’s Coptic Christian residents, seven Christians were forcibly seized from their homes by “unknown gunmen,” marched out into the desert and shot execution style some 20 miles west of Benghazi (graphic pictures appear here).

A few days later, another Coptic Christian, Salama Fawzi, 24, was shot in the head while unloading food in front of his grocery stand in Benghazi, again, by several “unknown gunmen.”  And the day after that, another corpse was found, believed to be that of a Copt—due to the small cross tattooed on his wrist traditionally worn by Egyptian Christians.

This is to say nothing of the churches attacked, of Christian cemeteries desecrated, and of 100 Christians—including Western ones—arrested, tortured (some dying) for possessing Christian “paraphernalia” (like Bibles and crosses) in the post “Arab Spring” Libya the Obama administration and its allies helped create.

As previously mentioned, Muslim persecution of Christians is the litmus test of how “radical” an Islamic society has become.  Thus, in all those Mideast nations that the Obama administration and its Western allies have interfered—Egypt (under Morsi), Libya, and ongoing Syria—the increase of Christian persecution there is a reflection of the empowerment of forces hostile to everything Western civilization once stood for.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabspring; gaddafi; hillary; ibrahim; jarrett; libya; mccain; nato; obama; obamalibya

1 posted on 01/13/2015 5:06:34 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 01/13/2015 5:08:58 AM PST by SJackson (incompetent and feckless..the story of the Obama presidency. No hand on the f***ing tiller, Hillary)
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To: SJackson

Thanks to you, President Obama, and you, President wannabee Hillary.


3 posted on 01/13/2015 5:11:54 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: SJackson

Population-wise, Libya is pretty small, around 6 million but, yes, screw-up wise, it’s the worst or way up there. Still, we know Gaddafi was our sworn enemy. We didn’t need to bomb over there. We just benefited extremists.


4 posted on 01/13/2015 5:15:36 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: SJackson

We need a new crusade to protect the Christians of these areas.

all moslems have been proven to be terrorists and islam is a satanic cult that must be eradicated.

At some point we will be forced to either die or kill all the moslems. We may as well start nuking them now.


6 posted on 01/13/2015 5:16:52 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: SJackson

But but but but
Raymond Ibrahim forgot to blame George Bush. How can that be? Could it be he is placing the blame on Obama?
Nope, Dear Leader’s name was not mentioned, so maybe it was some left over Bush operative that was, the “someone called from America.”


7 posted on 01/13/2015 5:19:42 AM PST by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan by the day)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Thanks to you, President Obama, and you, President wannabee Hillary.

May they both rot in hell.

8 posted on 01/13/2015 5:20:42 AM PST by ScottinVA (Communism, liberalism and Islam: Kindred ideologies dedicated to America's destruction.)
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To: SJackson

We should have supported Daffy, Mubarak, and Assad. The ME would be in a lot better shape if we did.

Personally, I don’t think this stuff is accidental or a product of stupidity. I think the State Department, on the orders of the President, handed the ME over to ISIS and Al Qaeda.


9 posted on 01/13/2015 5:44:10 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: SJackson

More important is, “Why did the West destroy Libya”?


10 posted on 01/13/2015 5:44:12 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: SJackson

Sad that I’m in agreement with that.


11 posted on 01/13/2015 5:48:39 AM PST by exPBRrat
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To: SJackson

HOORAY Raymond Ibrahim! OUTSTANDING article. Thanks for posting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y


12 posted on 01/13/2015 5:48:45 AM PST by PGalt
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To: The_Media_never_lie
More important is, “Why did the West destroy Libya”?

Oil? Banking? Disdain for dictators? Caliphate build for carving up world?

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13 posted on 01/13/2015 6:05:10 AM PST by PGalt
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To: The_Media_never_lie
More important is, “Why did the West destroy Libya”?

I think Obama made a deal with the MB. Obama got to kill Osama Bin Laden before the 2012 election, and he destabilized Libya for them.

14 posted on 01/13/2015 6:08:24 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: SJackson
How the west ISLAM destroyed Libya.

There.
Fixed it.

15 posted on 01/13/2015 6:15:57 AM PST by Bon mots (American Exceptionalism becomes American Acceptionalism under this regime... :()
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To: SJackson

Where is Qadaffi’s fortune?
Hillary and Obama know.


16 posted on 01/13/2015 6:33:41 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Bon mots

Tom Jefferson and Reagan knew how to deal with those zipperheads. Doesn’t mean we should move in after kicking their arses. Not our fault they’re too stupid not to mess with the giant.


17 posted on 01/13/2015 6:59:25 AM PST by gr8eman (Bill Carson...meet Arch Stanton!)
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To: SJackson

Assad and his father with backing by the USSR/Russia have also caused a lot of this to happen in the ME in general, if they didn’t shoot down protesters, we might not have seen this.

Mubarak should have been left alone.


18 posted on 01/13/2015 7:58:10 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter
Still, we know Gaddafi was our sworn enemy.

WE KNOW both Gaddafi and Mubarak were our allies - hated the Taliban and Muslim Brotherhood - keep them in check and kept us apprised to their actions, whereabouts etc.

there were other pluses in both countries, but the above was the main reason they had to be destroyed - and turned over to the Muslim Brotherhood. (Valuable huge and strategic chunk of Africa for the new Caliphate.)

Egypt was fortunate to oust the MB and regain some semblance of civilization.

Libya - trying, but not successful.

Our enemy is within.

BTW - Mubarak has been cleared of charges.

(Are any of you really surprised that neither our Pres_ent not VP nor sec of state nor anyone else was sent from Washington to Paris in solidarity with the civilized world against the barbarians?)

I guess 'Taqiyya' doesn't stretch far enough to pretend to protest those whose side he is really on?

19 posted on 01/13/2015 9:22:00 AM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits ye shall know them.)
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To: maine-iac7

Gaddafi gave up his nuclear weapons program in exchange of our promise to support him. Then Obama came alone and our past assurances mean nothing.


20 posted on 01/13/2015 9:28:14 PM PST by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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