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2015: THE YEAR OF DIPLOMATIC DISASTER IN IRAN
Front Page Magazine ^ | January 6, 2015 | Bruce Thornton

Posted on 01/08/2015 9:33:48 AM PST by RetiredArmy

Prognosticators from the London Times to Democratic pundit James Carville are predicting that President Obama this year will finish a deal with Iran regarding its nuclear program. With a record of foreign policy failure, Obama is eager for a seeming success, even if the agreement leaves the mullahs with the capacity to quickly build some nuclear bombs at a time of their choosing. Such an outcome would obviously be a strategic disaster, leaving this country and its regional allies vulnerable to an inveterate enemy driven by an apocalyptic ideology.

Obama and his foreign policy team will bear the brunt of responsibility for this failure, as they should. In addition to displaying sheer incompetence and ignorance in his foreign policy (could not have said it better myself (RetArmy)), the president has serially sacrificed our security and interests to political needs (again, nail on head (RetArmy)). Time and again he has made decisions based on partisan calculations that tried to reconcile the ideological dogma of his left-wing base with the demands that something should be done about global threats (oh, I like how this guy writes)).

For example, Obama sent more troops to Afghanistan in 2009 in order to salvage what in his 2008 presidential campaign he called the “good war,” but at the same time he announced a date-certain withdrawal that undercut our forces’ effectiveness and signaled the Taliban to just wait us out(and kill more of our people (RetArmy)). More blatantly, after four Americans, including a diplomat, were murdered in Benghazi several weeks before the 2012 presidential election, his administration camouflaged its responsibility by blaming an obscure Internet video for inciting the violence despite all the evidence to the contrary. The looming bad deal with Iran will be another such sacrifice of the country’s interests, this time to Obama’s “legacy.”

Yet these political machinations have taken place in the larger context of ideas about the conduct of foreign policy that go beyond Obama. At their heart is a view of human nature as unitary, in the sense that all peoples, no matter their religion, traditions, or culture, mostly want the same things we in the West want, and will act to achieve these aims using the same utilitarian calculus. This assumption underlies a second one: that since most people want peace and order, conflict can be resolved through diplomacy, agreements, treaties, and other non-lethal forms of persuasion like economic sanctions. The fundamental weakness of this set of assumptions has been demonstrated repeatedly over the last century––it neglects the irrational motivations of peoples, and the multiplicity of conflicting goods they will pursue no matter how destructive they may be.

Obama came into office having publicly endorsed this foreign policy philosophy. Doing so reinforced the perception that he was the opposite of George W. Bush (Mr. "Give the Palestinians a State of their own.") , who had been cast by progressives as a cowboy warmonger responsible for the difficulties of the Iraq war. Most important, the received wisdom at the time was that “this president failed so miserably at diplomacy that we’re now forced to war,” as Democratic Senator Tom Daschle said of Bush. Senator Obama, in an important 2007 essay in Foreign Policy, similarly announced that “we must launch a comprehensive regional and diplomatic initiative to help broker an end to the civil war in Iraq,” and he promised to “reinvigorate American diplomacy” as the way to resolve conflicts with Iran and Syria.

Obama’s handling of the Iranians’ pursuit of nuclear weapons has been predicated on these same ideas. Thus he has repeatedly reached out to the Iranians both publicly and secretly, and made concessions to keep them at the bargaining table, only to be met with more belligerent rhetoric and escalating demands, even as the mullahs keep supporting terrorist outfits that have killed our troops, and spinning the centrifuges on their way to a nuclear bomb.

But Obama’s feckless behavior also reflects the mistaken ideas outlined above. Consider his response to The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg last year, regarding Iran’s religious extremism.

“If you look at Iranian behavior, they are strategic, and they’re not impulsive. They have a worldview, and they see their interests, and they respond to costs and benefits. And that isn’t to say that they aren’t a theocracy that embraces all kinds of ideas that I find abhorrent, but they’re not North Korea. They are a large, powerful country that sees itself as an important player on the world stage, and I do not think has a suicide wish, and can respond to incentives. And that’s the reason why they came to the table on sanctions.”

Despite the passing nod to a “worldview” and “theocracy,” Obama reduces the Iranian regime’s behavior to material “interests” that trump religion. He says the mullahs do not have a “suicide wish,” and hence “respond to incentives,” after making a rational calculus of “costs and benefits.” But Obama’s fundamental mistake is in misunderstanding the purpose or aim of these calculations, or of Iran’s desire to be “an important player on the world stage.” As followers of an apocalyptic, messianic version of Shi’a Islam, the mullahs running Iran are after much bigger fish than just being a global “important player.” They are pursuing the religiously inspired precepts of the founder of their state, the Ayatollah Khomeini: “We shall export our revolution to the whole world. Until the cry, ‘There is no God but God’ resounds over the whole world, there will be struggle.”

Moreover, while the secular, materialist Obama thinks the mullahs don’t have a “suicide wish,” from the mullahs’ perspective, the sacrifice of their own and others’ lives is trivial compared to the religiously sanctioned aim of that sacrifice. As Khomeini allegedly said about Iran, “I say let this land burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world.” For 14 centuries Muslim warriors have claimed that they love death the way infidels love life, and for 14 centuries their actions have proved that claim to be more than rhetoric, most gruesomely on 9/11. Thus we should not assume that the mullahs privilege life over death in the pursuit of their aims.

As Michael Oren wrote a few years ago,

“A nuclear-armed Iran creates not one but several existential threats. The most manifest emanates from Iran’s routinely declared desire to ‘wipe Israel off the map,’ and from the fact that cold war calculi of nuclear deterrence through mutually assured destruction may not apply to Islamist radicals eager for martyrdom. Some Israeli experts predict that the Iranian leadership would be willing to sacrifice 50 percent of their countrymen in order to eradicate Israel.”

This traditionally Islamic triumphalist goal has determined Iran’s behavior for the last four decades. It explains their support of numerous terrorist groups, their genocidal intentions towards Israel, and their relentless pursuit of nuclear weapons, which would reorder the whole region to Iran’s benefit and mark a giant step towards Iranian global dominance. Lacking for now the military force necessary to reach that end, the mullahs have manipulated the negotiating process and exploited the West’s failure of civilizational nerve to make incremental advances. In this they are following the North Koreans, who for decades–– under both Democratic and Republican presidents–– brilliantly played the game of negotiation, “agreed frameworks,” “moratoriums,” Western concessions, and broken promises, until the day it announced it possessed nuclear weapons.

Obama will deserve obloquy if Iran gets the bomb. But let’s not forget the bad ideas that will have facilitated his failure. We can change administrations with our vote. But ideas that have long permeated the minds of millions, especially those entrusted with making a foreign policy that keeps us safe and advances our interests, are not so easily discarded.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bombbombbombbombiran; iran; israel; nukes; obama; opec; saudiarabia
Interesting read. (Stinking Mullah Obama, the future shiite muslim president of iran in 2017 if he cannot pull off some type of deal to remain in office here, has done more to deal a death blow to this Republic than Karter and Klinton combined.). (Naw I don't cap letter the muzzies names!!).
1 posted on 01/08/2015 9:33:48 AM PST by RetiredArmy
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To: RetiredArmy

“We are not fighting you because we want something from you. We are fighting you because we want to destroy you” ( Hussein Massawi, former leader of Hezbollah, quoted in Fouad Ajami, Dream Palaces of the Arabs)

So many refuse to accept that the above quote reflects the majority sentiment in the Muslim world. Last night, the MSNBC idiots were discussing the Paris atrocity, and once again beating the dead horse of it being poverty and lack of opportunity that causes these kinds of attacks.


2 posted on 01/08/2015 10:30:39 AM PST by Little Pig
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To: RetiredArmy

Inasmuch as I do appreciate your enthusiasm, please, save your comments for the first post below the article. The parenthetical additions make reading the author’s intent painful. It chops the artistic impact of his prose without his consent.


3 posted on 01/08/2015 10:31:57 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I’ll put my comments wherever I please. I posted it. I made it clear where I made a comment it was mine. If you don’t like my comments, skip them. End of conversation.


4 posted on 01/08/2015 12:48:16 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: RetiredArmy
I’ll put my comments wherever I please.

You certainly can.

I’ll put my comments wherever I please. I made it clear where I made a comment it was mine.

You certainly did, nor was that my objection.

If you don’t like my comments, skip them.

I don't prefer to do that. By the pathetic number of comments you received on this thread, apparently others don't either, but they are not so constructive as to offer as much as the polite suggestion I gave you.

End of conversation.

LOL

5 posted on 01/08/2015 1:34:14 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Look jack@$$, like I said, you have the AUTHORITY to skip any and all posts. You are NOT REQUIRED to read one danged word. Just go away. I have no need for crap like you or your LOL stupidity.


6 posted on 01/08/2015 2:13:37 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: Carry_Okie

And I could care less how many people respond. I don’t respond to every article posted that I read. Some people like you seem to think a response to a post is required, which is why there are hundreds of needless responses to most posts. I respond to posts when it makes sense to respond. That is not every read I do here. I respond to maybe one in 10 articles I read. Apparently you feel the need for everyone to read your Shakespeare on every post.


7 posted on 01/08/2015 2:16:51 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: RetiredArmy
You're fragging your own troops, gunny.

Time to switch you to decafe.

8 posted on 01/08/2015 2:33:44 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

I ain’t no gunny. And the last fragging I saw was Nam. And, I don’t drink coffee. It ruined, along with the US government, my stomach long ago.


9 posted on 01/08/2015 2:35:45 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: BlueDragon

PS: from a lot of what I see here, these ain’t my troops by a long shot. A VERY long shot. 95% of them are the enemy in stolen uniforms.


10 posted on 01/08/2015 2:36:38 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: RetiredArmy
The illogical and unreal policies of Obama convince me he is deliberately arming the Muslims openly, and secretly telling them to attack and destroy Israel.
11 posted on 01/08/2015 2:38:25 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: RetiredArmy

Government coffee will do that to a guy...

Now, no coffee. OK

So what's the real deal though?

You got a pocket full of those old-fashioned cross tops and get'n 'em confused with aspirin or tylenol?

Those are not "Tums"...that's for sure.

12 posted on 01/08/2015 3:01:45 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: SkyPilot
Obama is either incompetent, or he is doing it on purpose.

Looks a lot like "on purpose".

13 posted on 01/08/2015 3:03:13 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

Thanks to eight surgeries in the past six years, I already have a nice little pill selection to get out of bed, to walk around every day, and get into bed and sleep at night. All thanks to my Uncle Sam.


14 posted on 01/08/2015 3:45:41 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: SkyPilot

No argument out of me.


15 posted on 01/08/2015 3:46:07 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: RetiredArmy

Old injuries and wounds? If so, sorry to hear of that...but growing old, I guess, beats the alternative...

And if the VA is helping, then that could be a positive aspect.

Some guys still either slip through the cracks, or else the process seem to run then off onto a siding (siding, like-- railroad siding) leaving them partially, or mostly ignored.

16 posted on 01/08/2015 7:45:54 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

Nam wounds, damages to shoulders, knee, and back/neck. Surgeries on knee that has to be replaced soon, twice on lower back with fusion of blown out disks that Army doctors always told me “we can see nothing wrong with your back.” (I sent you a FReep mail with more).


17 posted on 01/09/2015 7:48:53 AM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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