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Curt Schilling says being a Republican cost him Hall of Fame votes
Washington Post ^ | January 7, 2015 | By Cindy Boren

Posted on 01/07/2015 5:05:23 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s reported that Smoltz is a Republican, though not a very vocal one like Schilling. Smoltz also had four great seasons as a closer so that may have tipped the scales. I think he’s the only MLB pitcher to have 200 wins as a starter and 150 saves as a closer. That’s quite a feat in itself.


21 posted on 01/07/2015 5:26:48 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: LiveFree99

HOF credentials loom huge in the memoibilia circuit. No being in has cost him a lot of money.


22 posted on 01/07/2015 5:27:07 PM PST by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Or maybe because he’s kind of a jerk?


23 posted on 01/07/2015 5:29:30 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pointing out dereliction of duty is NOT fear mongering, especially in a panDEMic)
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To: Oliviaforever

Its probably true.

I am from Boston and lived there for many years including the 2004 baseball season. Boston winning the World Series without Curt Schilling would not have happened.

Not sure if you know the back story about his contribution to the series but the man went through experimental surgery a couple times. This is during the playoffs!

The man could have ended up walking around on a cane for the rest of his days - what he did was so selfless it amazed and captivated all of Boston and baseball.

He was loved, admired, respected - the toast of the town. Then he endorses Bush and the town had a complete meltdown. The liberals went completely nuts. I witnessed a young kid lose it in a pizza joint when it was on the news.

They could not handle that some one so respected and loved by them was a Conservative. They went so far as lying about his contribution to the 2004 win. The comments, sneering dismissal of the man was unbelievable. It continues to this day.

The sports radio shows blew up with nut job liberal baseball fans calling in, all worked into a rage over his endorsement of Bush. The idiot liberals I worked with all went nuts about it.

It was madness.

So, do I think that the man’s politics played a role in his being inducted into the Hall of Fame - I think its entirely possible.


24 posted on 01/07/2015 5:31:53 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: ConservativeStatement

I believe him. Imagine if he were CONSERVATIVE, too. ;-)


25 posted on 01/07/2015 5:32:56 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: ConservativeStatement
And didn't they say Mike Piazza's alleged gayness cost him votes?

Which is it?!

26 posted on 01/07/2015 5:36:22 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Smoltz was considering running for John Linder’s Congressional seat as a Republican. He has never been political at all though publicly.

Being as overtly conservative as Schilling probably doesn’t help with those ‘Drive By’ media Sports writers. They are every bis as bad as the people on PMSNBC or at any network or newspaper editorial outfit.


27 posted on 01/07/2015 5:41:42 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Baseball sports writers are amongst the most liberal left of all “journalists”.

Not surprised.


28 posted on 01/07/2015 5:41:53 PM PST by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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To: Oliviaforever

Well, you have found one player. Good job.


29 posted on 01/07/2015 5:44:57 PM PST by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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To: lee martell

It’s also a “pitcher’s year” meaning the vote got split. I’d have to check John Smoltz’ numbers but that’s a tough call.


30 posted on 01/07/2015 5:46:06 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: dowcaet

Yeah, his work as a closer later in his career certainly made all the difference.

Looking back on it, it’s amazing to think of a pitching staff like the Braves had during the 90s with 3 Hall of Fame pitchers. Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz. If they had better relief pitching and maybe a better hitter or two, they could have won 4 or 5 World Series titles, rather than one. They really were something special then. Maddux was nothing short of incredible.


31 posted on 01/07/2015 5:50:47 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: rlmorel

One of the four elected.


32 posted on 01/07/2015 5:52:14 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: ConservativeStatement

The writers usually love players with all that playoff success, so I do think things about Schilling other than his production probably has something to do with it. I have no idea if his political leanings are one of those things.

Freegards


33 posted on 01/07/2015 5:57:34 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: lee martell

I think the baseball HoF is flawed too, but at least they don’t put the equivalent of Bob Ueker in as a player. R&R hall has complete stiffs in it as rock acts.

Freegards


34 posted on 01/07/2015 6:02:13 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: ConservativeStatement

I wonder what Don Mattingly did to be excluded from the HOF.


35 posted on 01/07/2015 6:15:45 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Gumdrop
Going by the stats, Schilling makes a good case:

(Schilling's stats appear first.)

W-L: 216-146 versus 213-155
Winning percentage: .597 versus .579
Walks: 711 versus 1,010
Strikeouts: 3,116 versus 3,084
Shutouts: 20 versus 16

In all those categories, Schilling has the edge, and a big edge in walk/strikeout ratio. The only significant category in which Smoltz was better is saves, because he spent three full years as a closer, which Schilling didn't do because he was still effective as a starter.

It is well known that the media do not like Schilling because of his conservative views, but the media will NEVER admit bias because it destroys their precious self-image.
36 posted on 01/07/2015 6:24:12 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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doesn’t the hall have some numbers in play that if exceeded the person would get in. Seems like Schilling does not have enough wins. However what about strike-outs?


37 posted on 01/07/2015 6:25:52 PM PST by morphing libertarian (defund Obama care and amnesty. Impeach for Benghazi and IRS and fast and furious.)
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To: Oliviaforever
"Curt is delusional."

Curt was outspoken about his beliefs, Biggio and Smoltz were not. They stayed in the closet, where the media want conservatives to stay. Look at the comparative stats (my previous post) of Schilling and Smoltz, and explain why one got in and the other didn't.
38 posted on 01/07/2015 6:27:12 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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“doesn’t the hall have some numbers in play that if exceeded the person would get in. Seems like Schilling does not have enough wins. However what about strike-outs?”

There is no official minimum threshold for ANY stat to gain admission to the HOF. My previous post showed the stats for Schilling and Smoltz; one got in, the other didn’t, even though Schilling’s stats were a little better.


39 posted on 01/07/2015 6:29:29 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: 9thLife
"And didn't they say Mike Piazza's alleged gayness cost him votes?"

If he'd come out as gay, he'd have been a lock. The problem with him was suspicion of steroid use.
40 posted on 01/07/2015 6:31:47 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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