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Commentary: Historically, governors rose to president but senators now have an edge
The Portland Press Herald ^ | December 31, 2014 | Jonathan Zimmerman

Posted on 12/31/2014 4:23:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

As government’s scope expands, voters see the advantages of a candidate from inside the Beltway.

In 1947, U.S. historian Wilfred E. Binkley took stock of the 13 men who had been president since the end of the Civil War and reached a stark conclusion: Governorship was “a training school for successful presidents.” The seven ex-governors on the list – including both Roosevelts, Theodore and Franklin – were far more effective chief executives than the six others.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said pretty much the same thing during the Republican Governors Association meeting last month. “We’re better at it,” Christie told his fellow state leaders. “The American people are done with the experiment of having somebody (as president) who’s never run anything before.” He was preaching to the choir. The list of potential 2016 Republican presidential candidates is dominated by governors. Alongside Christie, there’s John Kasich (Ohio), Scott Walker (Wisconsin), Bobby Jindal (Louisiana), Mike Pence (Indiana) and Rick Scott (Florida). And don’t forget Florida’s former Gov. Jeb Bush and Arkansas ex-Gov. Mike Huckabee, who are considering presidential runs as well.

But if you look across our nation’s whole history, it’s hardly clear that former governors make the best presidents. The ranks of governor-turned-presidents include not just the Roosevelts, after all, but also Grover Cleveland, Calvin Coolidge and Jimmy Carter.

Governors’ fates during presidential elections have ebbed and flowed, reflecting shifts in how Americans think about government itself. Before the American Revolution, Colonial governors were appointed by the British crown. Americans in the early republic continued to view them with suspicion: In seven of the original 13 states, governors were elected for just one-year terms.

The job was certainly no steppingstone toward the White House. After George Washington, the next five presidents were vice presidents or secretaries of state when they ran. When Alexis de Tocqueville came to America in the 1830s to study its nascent democracy, one politician told him, “The governor counts for absolutely nothing and is only paid $1,200!”

After the Civil War, governors started to come into popular favor. In 1876, both parties nominated a governor for president. Although New York Gov. Samuel Tilden won the popular vote, Ohio Gov. Rutherford B. Hayes received the majority in the Electoral College. (It was the Bush v. Gore election of its day.)

For 52 of the next 68 years, the Oval Office was occupied by former governors. State governments in the early 1900s became “laboratories of democracy,” as future Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis called them, experimenting with workplace safety regulation and a host of other reforms. That made state governors like Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson into much more prominent figures, who moved easily onto the national stage.

But after World War II, experience in Washington came into vogue. All of our chief executives from Truman to Ford were former members of Congress, with the notable exception of ex-Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower. Amid the national security concerns of the Cold War, voters wanted their commander in chief to be someone who knew his way around the federal government.

Writing in 1959, pollster Louis Harris wondered whether an ex-governor could ever win the presidency again. “In a cosmic, atomic, mass-media age, governors have shrunk to … local figures,” Harris wrote.

But the tide would turn again in the 1970s, when the Watergate scandal soured Americans on Washington pols. At the same time the rise of modern conservatism devolved many powers to the states and made “Washington, D.C.” a term of derision and scorn. Starting with Carter in 1976, four of the next five presidents were former governors.

Then came a U.S. senator, Barack Obama, who beat the trend. He defeated a fellow senator (John McCain) the first time around and an ex-governor (Mitt Romney) the next. His party appears likely to select another ex-senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton, to run in 2016.

So despite all the Republican governors lining up to be the presidential nominee, don’t be surprised if Republicans choose a senator with a national profile – say, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio or Rand Paul.

The scope of the federal government has greatly expanded during the Obama years, including health care, the National Security Agency and the presidential order on immigration. And the more influence that the federal government exerts on voters, the more they see the advantages of a candidate from inside the Beltway. Like it or not, that makes Congress – not the statehouse – the more likely training school for our next president.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; bush; huckabee; tedcruz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2DV: I hear you. I know California wasn’t AS liberal as now, but it was still more leftist than the average state.


21 posted on 12/31/2014 5:35:28 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice read, thanks Vet.

I dig history


22 posted on 12/31/2014 5:38:33 AM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

No it wasn’t. How would a Ronald Reagan win the governorship if it had been? Southern California, especially, was quite conservative back then. Much has changed.


23 posted on 12/31/2014 5:38:49 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Christie hasn’t damaged the Republican Party in NJ; he’s more like the only reason we have one. He has all the right enemies to prove his conservative credentials; I don’t think he is presidential material, but in comparison to the Dem governors we have (and even the last Republican - Whitman), he is a solid conservative. Tax-cutting, pro-life, anti-teachers’ unions...


24 posted on 12/31/2014 5:41:59 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Christie won twice in NJ, and we’ve laid off many public employees in response to his stabilization of property taxes here. He isn’t perfect, but our property tax bills don’t increase as much as they had in the past. He knows we have to keep NJ attractive to companies and individual taxpayers.


25 posted on 12/31/2014 5:44:26 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: stanne

Mudbro works too.


26 posted on 12/31/2014 5:49:57 AM PST by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Everything you say about Walker is true -

but I think so many omit from consideration the intense, seething anger held toward 0bamacare, amnesty, etc.

Walker doesn’t show that he has that bulldog in him to remove it. He doesn’t talk about repeal. He’s just... there... albeit getting stuff done as you say.

Someone like Cruz though IS a bulldog about wrong-headed, America-destroying policies. He DOES say what people want to have done. He gets us going.

So, no disagreement - just amendment ;)


27 posted on 12/31/2014 5:50:19 AM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“2. On Right to Work, we saw that Ohio Governor Kasich over-reached and got nothing in Ohio for his efforts. Walker had to twist arms for the original Act 10, and he likely wouldn’t have won his first term if he didn’t exempt Police/fire/emergency services from it. If the State Legislator passes it he, may well sign off on it.”

Michigan passed RTW but exempted police and fire from it. The unions rolled over and played dead, they didn’t attempt to fight it once it passed.


28 posted on 12/31/2014 5:55:25 AM PST by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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To: Principled
Walker doesn’t show that he has that bulldog in him to remove it. He doesn’t talk about repeal. He’s just... there... albeit getting stuff done as you say.

Walker deep-sixed the mil-madison high speed rail in week one.

The bulldog in Scott Walker is easily aroused by over-reaching Dems. He didn't campaign on Act 10. He DID campaign on getting the budget under control. And there is no lame duck like a lame duck Dem governor with next term's money to spend. Walker was behind the eight ball.

The unions stupidly thought that by letting the deal wait until Walker was in, they could neuter him early, and so didn't make a deal when Doyle was on his way out the door.

Walker finds out in short order that the Unions/Dems are not negotiating in good faith, and drops the A bomb.

Also keep in mind that Walker took NO Obama money and set up no state exchange. He basically told the Feds ... you want'em? You got'm. One thing that Walker has that Reagan had, and Cruz may or may not, is the inability to be made into a DEMON in the eyes of the general public. The guy is mild cheddar mild, and talk about him stomping on the necks of the working man wears thin REALLY quickly.

BTW, I really like Cruz, too. Both men have a lot to offer. I hope they aim their cannons at the Bushes, Cristies and Romneys, and not at each other.
29 posted on 12/31/2014 5:59:31 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Principled

You apparently have not being paying attention. The man is ferocious and has severely bitten his opposition to the point of drawing blood


30 posted on 12/31/2014 6:03:15 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert

You apparently, haven’t read my post. Try reading it slower.


31 posted on 12/31/2014 6:25:29 AM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I have no argument with Walker’s cred. But just as soon as he gets popular, he’ll be demonized too.

That Cruz knows us well enough to recognize the seething anger over 0bamacare and amnesty and is able to articulate what needs to be done is a strength that Walker lacks - and that strength is what attracts the demon attacks... you know, flak and over the target.... and Cruz lacks the track record of getting things done.

Each has a strength the other lacks - Maybe they’ll end up fixing America as a team?


32 posted on 12/31/2014 6:31:44 AM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pure propaganda. The Democrats have only senators to run, so now senators “have an edge”.


33 posted on 12/31/2014 6:46:26 AM PST by offwhite
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To: offwhite

bttt!


34 posted on 12/31/2014 7:04:36 AM PST by txhurl
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To: offwhite

O’Malley is a senator?


35 posted on 12/31/2014 7:23:20 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I think after the Obama experience, voters are going to be loathe to elect another Senator as POTUS for a LOOOOOONG time.


Likewise a black man - even if he IS qualified. Liberal guilt has been satiated. The next one will have to actually make a darned good case, beyond his race, to get elected.


36 posted on 12/31/2014 7:23:41 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: kearnyirish2; SoFloFreeper; Dr. Sivana

37 posted on 12/31/2014 7:28:26 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Principled
I have no argument with Walker’s cred. But just as soon as he gets popular, he’ll be demonized too.

Oh, Walker knows Wisconsin well enough, and should be a quick study for the U.S. Few are as angry as Wisconsin Talk radio mistress Vicki McKenna, and she's good with him.

Walker got the Palin treatment squared. Wall-to-Wall. It got to a point of supersaturation where it just didn't stick any more. He did all he did WHILE having to face a Recall election. That and the flee-baggers set him back a few months.

After a point the demonization backfires. Carter was successfully accused of showing a previously unknown "mean streak" when running against Reagan. Al Gore's sighing and sanctimonious condescension cost him at least one state in the general election.

I am good with either Walker or Cruz. Walker is the farthest right we can get without getting a party fracture of some sort. Cruz will force the fracture but get new elements in the party that will be an upgrade over what we lose in Romneyites, who are the WORST of the Republicans. Long term, a Cruz type will be needed. If we need to plug the hole before we bail, Walker might be the better way. I'll go with whomever is more likely to knock out Bush/Christie/Romney when the primary comes. Guys like Jindal and Rubio can play if they want to get cred for the VP spot or a claim in 2024.
38 posted on 12/31/2014 7:32:38 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I think we’ve decided it.

Walker/Cruz for 8, Cruz/Haley for 8, ... ...


39 posted on 12/31/2014 7:39:06 AM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: kearnyirish2
Christie hasn’t damaged the Republican Party in NJ; he’s more like the only reason we have one.

As you live there, I will take your word for it. He is an upgrade over Christine Todd Whitman.

I used to live in CT and was a listener to WABC-AM NYC, and Bob Grant used to harp on Jersey ALL THE TIME. When Florio's toilet paper tax etc. was so unpopular that 3/4s of the state legislature went Republican, the Republicans did NOTHING with their mandate. So Christie doesn't have a lot to work with. Chris Smith is your one star at the Fed level.

In Massachusetts, the legislature is down to something like 19% Republican, with Connecticut not much better. This is a big change from when Reagan won Massachusetts in 1984, and there were still patrotic social conservatives in the Dem party (e.g. John Silber). William Weld Republicans like Romney only appeal to a small cache of voters in Massachusetts who will abandon them if they aren't socially progressive. At some point, things get so far out of whack that you have a little club (like in Philadelphia) that no longer thinks of winning, but only getting a few crumbs off of the tables to make them shut up, with big issues completely ignored.
40 posted on 12/31/2014 7:42:23 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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