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Former Fla. gov. Crist on reopening Cuba ties
SeeBSnews ^ | 17 Dec 2014

Posted on 12/24/2014 7:02:04 AM PST by shove_it

Florida has long been the home of a large Cuban-American community. The issue of American-Cuban relations is a major issue in the state.

Charlie Crist, Florida's former governor, joined CBSN on Wednesday to discuss how President Obama's move to restore diplomatic ties with Cuba will impact the state. According to Crist, the economic impact will be significant because the easing of restrictions on the island will spur redevelopment.

Former Florida gov. Charlie Crist GETTY IMAGES "You talk about housing changes, schooling, infrastructure, the natural launching pad for much of that redevelopment is the state of Florida," Crist said. Cuba is only 90 miles south of Key West. This rebuilding and modernizing of the country will have a great impact on the Cuban people, Crist said, and that is a main reason why he is fully supportive of Obama's action. "The changes that can take place, that can improve the quality of life of everyday Cubans can be extraordinary and exceptional, and I hope that it is," he said.

(video at link)

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Cuba; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; US: Florida; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: charliecrist; cuba; florida; kentucky; nicaragua; paultardation; randpaul; russia; venezuela
I just heard on the local news here in Central Florida that Crist is bucking for USA Ambassador to Cuba. That commie paradise is the perfect place for Moonbat Charlie.
1 posted on 12/24/2014 7:02:04 AM PST by shove_it
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To: shove_it

Are they going to bring Cuba’s superior medical system to Fla.?


2 posted on 12/24/2014 7:04:33 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

That’s JOB1 for the regime. 0bama will swap Club Gitmo for it.


3 posted on 12/24/2014 7:06:44 AM PST by shove_it (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen -- Dennis Prager)
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To: shove_it

Sun Tan Charlie just won’t go away.


4 posted on 12/24/2014 7:10:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The trouble with America is that it's full of Americans. - The commie DemocRATS.)
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To: shove_it

Ex-gov. Charlie Crisco can’t stand to lose his 15 minutes of fame.


5 posted on 12/24/2014 7:12:21 AM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: shove_it

Crist blows.


6 posted on 12/24/2014 7:20:24 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: shove_it

“In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” Franklin D. Roosevelt

For Obama and his Communist handlers to open diplomatic relations with Communist Cuba at this time didn’t happen without careful planning, so what could their agenda possibly be?

Could it be that with international oil prices plunging, Venezuela’s economy is on the verge of collapsing, and Cuba’s anemic economy depends heavily on Venezuela for support. If Venezuela’s economy collapses, Cuba’s economy will soon follow resulting in a flood of Cuban refugees arriving in Florida like never seen before, and, of course, Obama will be there to welcome another mass of “victims” into the Democrat/Communist Party USA.

This flood of Cuban refugees will have little or nothing in common with the previous flood of Cuban refugees who were fleeing Communism and are now registered Republicans in Florida. No, this flood will be nothing but hungry Communists looking for another Communist Dictator to take care of them...enter Obama.


7 posted on 12/24/2014 7:22:52 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor

Sounds very likely and scary. 0bama’s on path to make LBJ look like a minor leaguer.


8 posted on 12/24/2014 7:28:20 AM PST by shove_it (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen -- Dennis Prager)
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To: shove_it
To FL, Cuba, on the commercial level, represents 55 years of pent-up demand for every known American product. FL, in particular the ports of Miami and Tampa, has the natural shipping points for everything. In the economic background, it is entirely possible that large offshore oil reserves ... already assigned to the CHICOM, ... will guarantee that Communism can continue ... perhaps on the CHICOM model. In the meantime, Cuba is on the verge of a collapse that might otherwise endanger its goverment.

Go on youtube and take a look at some of the travel documentaries about Cuba. Although the filmmakers admire the resilience and spirit of the Cuban people, it is easy to see what is going on. Agriculture on this fertile island that was a major food exporter has failed. The public utilities, residential plumbing, and public sanitation have utterly fallen into ruin, the streets are in a shambles. Public transport is on the African level. People are broke and hungry on rationed and very expensive supplies. Nothing has been properly maintained for 5 decades. Housing often just collapses. The people are crushed under a very harsh and punitive bureaucracy that taxes the small, permitted individual enterprises harshly, (restaurants, small hotels, cobblers, taxis etc) but grudgingly tolerates them as a source of tourist dollars. Block captains report on suspicious activities. Housing is assigned. "Counter-Revolutionary" activity is punished with eviction. In short, think Soviet-occupied East Germany, ca. 1949, complete with thousands in very harsh and primitive custody.

What Obama is really doing is bailing out the fellow Marxist SOBs responsible for this, using tax dollars to guarantee the American exports needed to prop up this vile government of a ruined country; a country that once, according to the UN, had one of the hemisphere's higher standards of living.

Newsflash! Given Cuba's harsh treatment and intolerance of homosexuals, what makes Gay Charlie Crist think the Cubans will welcome him as Ambassador? Will he visit the AIDS patients quarantined on remote islands? Jailed homosexuals rounded up regularly on the streets of Havana?

This move of Obama's is infamy, no matter what it does for FL's economy.

9 posted on 12/24/2014 7:42:44 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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Looks like the off-shore drilling is a no go, thankfully ...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/11/us-cuba-energy-idUSKBN0GB1QN20140811

... I had not heard anything about it lately. It was a real concern, particularly in view of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill that befell real pros like BP and Transocean. Given China’s reputation for craftsmanship, I certainly didn’t want them anywhere near Florida drilling for oil.

Count on 0bama to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.


10 posted on 12/24/2014 8:26:21 AM PST by shove_it (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen -- Dennis Prager)
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To: shove_it
The Cuban oil fields should be no less exploitable than the offshore oil of Mexico, Brazil, Louisiana, California, Scotland, Norway, etc. IMNVHO, it is unrealistic to imagine that if indeed they exist, they will not be eventually used.

Perhaps a Cuban threat to use them in a way not pleasing to our interests was used as leverage against the Green Nonsense Administration of The Mombasa MF?

I hope, young Shove, that you have not succumbed to the silliness surrounding the BP spill up in the Northern Gulf. That was truly a molehill turned into a very big propaganda mountain for political reasons. Beware of Green mind-rot. E.G., the "clean-up" after the Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska actually did far more damage to the "environment" than the original spill. Oil has been seeping into the Gulf of Mexico for eons, and bacteria have actually evolved that eat it. Catastrophic spills are tragic, but they can be handled. Public panic and fearful ignorance spread by "environmentalists" is what cannot be handled.

As we say in Maine, "An environmentalist is a fellow who already has a nice house in the woods."

11 posted on 12/24/2014 9:09:00 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: shove_it

Who cares what this loser thinks.


12 posted on 12/24/2014 9:09:42 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: shove_it
I just heard on the local news here in Central Florida that Crist is bucking for USA Ambassador to Cuba.

So he can go see "Superman" for himself.


13 posted on 12/24/2014 9:11:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Kenny Bunk

It was far from a “molehill” for BP and RIG and their stockholders in terms of co$t to them. Lotsa luck collecting damages from ChiComs for such a failure. You are correct about the relatively minimal environmental impact. The current market price of oil makes drilling in those waters prohibitive.

Thanks for thinking of me as “young Shove” - I’m closing fast on my 76th birthday.

Cheers,
Otter


14 posted on 12/24/2014 9:37:32 AM PST by shove_it (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen -- Dennis Prager)
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To: shove_it
I’m closing fast on my 76th birthday.

IMO, 'nother 4-5 years, and you'll be OK to vote.

Merry Christmas

15 posted on 12/24/2014 10:21:42 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: shove_it

BTW, Otter, been seeing ‘em once in a while down Keystone.


16 posted on 12/24/2014 10:24:53 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: shove_it

Why give washed up leftist any of your time and energy? Best just to ignore him.


17 posted on 12/24/2014 12:13:10 PM PST by JSDude1 ( .)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
"You talk about housing changes, schooling, infrastructure, the natural launching pad for much of that redevelopment is the state of Florida," Crist said. Cuba is only 90 miles south of Key West. This rebuilding and modernizing of the country will have a great impact on the Cuban people, Crist said, and that is a main reason why he is fully supportive of Obama's action. "The changes that can take place, that can improve the quality of life of everyday Cubans can be extraordinary and exceptional, and I hope that it is," he said.
Talking Points ping. by contrast:
18 posted on 12/26/2014 11:00:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ _____________________ Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: Paladin2

Cluelessness on Cuba (Humberto Fontova)
12,26,2014

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http://townhall.com/columnists/humbertofontova/2014/12/26/rand-pauls-cluelessness-on-cuba-n1935926/print

First off, if Castro “secretly favors the embargo,” then why did every one of his secret agents campaign secretly and obsessively against the embargo while working as secret agents? Castro managed the deepest and most damaging penetration of the U.S. Department of Defense in recent U.S. history. The spy’s name is Ana Belen Montes, known as “Castro’s Queen Jewel” in the intelligence community. In 2002 she was convicted of the same crimes as Ethel and Julius Rosenberg and today she serves a 25-year sentence in Federal prison. Only a plea bargain spared her from sizzling in the electric chair like the Rosenberg’s.

In fact, few U.S. foreign policy measures in recent history have been as phenomenally successful as our limited sanctions against the Stalinist Robber-Barons who run Cuba. First off, for three decades the Soviet Union was forced to pump the equivalent of almost ten Marshall Plans into Cuba.

This cannot have helped the Soviet Union’s precarious solvency or lengthened her life span. Secondly, the U.S. taxpayer has been spared the fleecing visited upon many others who reside in nations who eschew “embargoing” Cuba.

Per-capita-wise, Cuba qualifies as the world’s biggest debtor nation with a foreign debt of close to $50 billion, a credit–rating nudging Somalia’s, and an uninterrupted record of defaults.

In 1986 Cuba defaulted on most of her foreign debt to Europe. Seven years ago France’s version of the U.S. government’s Export-Import Bank (named COFACE) cut off Cuba’s credit line. Mexico’s Bancomex quickly followed suit. The Castro regime had stuck it to French taxpayers for $175 million and to Mexican taxpayers for $365 million.

Bancomex was forced to impound Cuban assets in three different countries in an attempt to recoup its losses.
A bit later we heard from another Castro sucker: “The Cuban regime has a long track record of failing to pay back our loans,” lamented South Africa’s Deputy Minister of Trade & Industry, Geordin Hill-Lewis. “In 2010, South Africa had to write off R1.1 billion in bad Cuban debt, and on Friday we wrote off another R250 million in bad debt. The time has come for South Africa to invest in strategic partnerships that deliver prosperity for our people.”

in 1960 stormed into almost 6000 U.S. owned businesses (worth almost $ 2 billion at the time) and stole them all at Soviet gunpoint. A few American business-owners resisted. One of these was Howard Anderson who owned a filling stations and Jeep dealership (not a casino or brothel, which were relatively rare in pre-Castro Cuba, by the way.) I’ll quote from Anderson v. Republic of Cuba, No. 01-28628 (Miami-Dade Circuit Court, April 13, 2003). “In one final session of torture, Castro’s agents drained Howard Anderson’s body of blood before sending him to his death at the firing squad.”

The Inter-American Law Review classifies Castro’s mass burglary of U.S. property as “the largest uncompensated taking of American property by a foreign government in history.” Rubbing his hands and snickering in triumphant glee, Castro boasted at maximum volume to the entire world that he was freeing Cuba from “Yankee economic slavery!” (Che Guevara’s term, actually) and that “he would never repay a penny!”

This is the only promise Fidel Castro has ever kept in his life. Hence the imposition of the Cuba embargo, not that you’d know any of this from the mainstream media.

The burglarized (and often brutalized) American owners filed those property claims against Castro’s regime with the U.S. government. They’re worth $7 billion today—and must be settled before the so called embargo is lifted.

This settlement provision for lifting the embargo was codified into U.S. law in 1996 by the Helms-Burton act, which means only Congress can lift the embargo, obviously after a vote. But the votes are not there.

Shouldn’t Rand Paul know this?

In 1967 libertarian icon Murray Rothbard seemed highly bereaved and aggrieved to hear of Che Guevara’s whacking. Here’ his encomium to the Stalinist who outlawed private property under penalty of torture-chamber and firing-squad:
“Che is dead, and we all mourn him. Long live Che! Why? How is it that so many libertarians mourn this man?...What made Che such an heroic figure for our time is that he, more than any man of our epoch or even of our century, was the living embodiment of the principle of Revolution… we all knew that his enemy was our enemy–that great Colossus that oppresses and threatens all the peoples of the world, U. S. imperialism.”

Ron Paul regards Murray Rothbard as one of America’s “greatest men” and “greatest heroes of freedom.” Rand Paul, considers it an honor to have met Murray Rothbard and a “privilege” to have once driven him to the airport.

So let’s hope simple “cluelessness” motivates Rand


19 posted on 12/26/2014 12:34:15 PM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPx.jpg)
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Rand, Like 0bama is apparently a supporter of torture. It’s apparently who they are.....


20 posted on 12/26/2014 2:54:49 PM PST by Paladin2
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