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Spy vs. DiFi
Townhall.com ^ | December 21, 2014 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 12/21/2014 6:25:18 AM PST by Kaslin

The needle already was in the haystack. That essentially is the message embedded in the Democrats' Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report on CIA interrogations and detentions, approved without a single Republican vote and released by committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein of California.

Three former CIA directors contend that enhanced interrogation techniques, approved under President George W. Bush and prohibited by President Barack Obama, yielded key information that saved lives and led to Osama bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. These claims go against Democratic rhetoric about what President Obama calls "the false choice between our security and our ideals." Democrats need to believe that what Feinstein calls "torture" doesn't actually yield information. So in 2009, the Senate Intelligence Committee voted to study CIA interrogations.

Feinstein has urged critics to read the report. I read the 500-page executive summary and finished with more questions than answers. It was like reading a bureaucratic version of Mad magazine's onetime cartoon "Spy vs. Spy." Clearly, there are rifts in the intelligence community. There was the FBI vs. the CIA -- part turf war, part mission divide. Within the CIA, there were officers who believed in rapport building and officers who believed that shows of force deliver the goods. My guess is that both methods work, although one can be faster. Each side of that divide thinks its approach teased out the information that led to bin Laden.

The committee, to its discredit, chose to tarnish the tough guys. The CIA, the report notes, "determined from its own experience with coercive interrogations, that such techniques 'do not produce intelligence,' 'will probably result in false answers,' and had historically proven to be ineffective. Yet these conclusions were ignored." If information was gleaned without the now-banned techniques and later a detainee offered it up during or after a harsh interrogation, the report deliberately ignored the harsh-sourced tidbit. The committee waded through 6.3 million documents. You could see how a CIA officer working in a warehouse of data might not see a phone number's significance until a detainee lied in a way that signaled its import. The committee deliberately ignored any breakthrough revelations.

The summary dismisses enhanced interrogation techniques because detainees subjected to them were known to provide fabricated information. Hello, Republicans counter, detainees not subject to harsh measures also fabricate answers. The CIA mocked the committee's credulity in generally accepting "at face value detainees' accounts that they lied under enhanced techniques and told the truth" afterward.

The GOP minority report slams the committee's failure to interview anyone at the CIA. The committee blames an Obama Department of Justice investigation of the CIA, expanded in 2009, for allowing brass to not require that staff be interviewed. No worries, quoth the committee: "The CIA's own documents provided a robust, contemporaneous, and firsthand record of the EIT program."

To feed the outrage meter, the report reveals that the CIA paid $81 million to a contracting firm started by psychologists James E. Mitchell and Bruce Jessen, who convinced the government that it could get more information by instilling in detainees a sense of "learned helplessness."

Other than that, the report is heartbreaking. Suspected Islamic extremist Gul Rahman died on a cold concrete floor -- wearing only a sweatshirt and shackled to a wall -- probably from hypothermia. I don't know what to make of allegations of rectal feeding -- if they are even true. But I do know that the procedure was not an authorized interrogation technique. Techniques such as sleep deprivation surely preyed on agency interrogators, as well as detainees. It was ugly work. I understand why some officers recoiled from the methods.

The report cost taxpayers $40 million -- for which Team DiFi blames the CIA. The outcome was predetermined. Feinstein maintains that waterboarding and sleep deprivation are "torture" that failed to produce crucial information obtainable by other means. CIA chief John Brennan wouldn't use that word.

He told reporters last week it is "unknowable" whether the CIA would have learned what it needed to know without harsh measures. "But for someone to say that there was no intelligence of value -- of use -- that came from those detainees once they were subjected to EITs?" Brennan said. "I think that lacks any foundation at all."

"If it were not clear before, the Feinstein report shows that Democrats do not have the stomach for the tough policies necessary to prevail," John Yoo, the former Bush lawyer who wrote memos authorizing the use of enhanced interrogation techniques, opined in National Review. "Because they cannot deny their involvement, they must claim that the CIA lied."

For all the many offenses cataloged in the Feinstein report, the Justice Department investigation concluded in 2012 without finding any prosecutable offense. That tells me the wrongdoings alleged in the report aren't remotely solid.


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1 posted on 12/21/2014 6:25:18 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

People forget that Feinstein came up through San Francisco politics and became the Mayor of San Francisco following the killing of her predecessor. That should tell you enough about her politics.


2 posted on 12/21/2014 6:28:45 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

And remember when Mayor Di stupidly went on TV and displayed the TYPE OF sneakers cops said serial killer Richard Ramirez wore?

Of course, he threw them out.... that delayed his capture and got even more people killed thanks to Mayor Di.


3 posted on 12/21/2014 6:38:57 AM PST by Liz (Pres Reagan on govt shutdown: "Let's close it down and see if anyone notices.")
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DUMBOCRATS' LAST HURRAH----WALKING WOUNDED AFTER MIDTERM DEFEAT---The calculating Sen Feinstein cherry-picked the CIA terror report. She endangered Americans----she used the torture report as a slapdown---as a weapon to save her Dumbocrat ***.........to stop the CIA's investigation of her dirty arms-related deals.

Back in Sept 2014, intel head Di/Fi was whining about the CIA looking through her computers and taking documents. Clearly, the CIA had plenty on her----even BEFORE the shocking Chi/Com missile scandal broke.

BACKSTORY: Di/Fi's known aversion to guns did not prevent her from honoring Cali's Raymond Chow---the key figure in Demorat state Sen Leland Yee's, shocking missile deal w/ China (Yee is a notorious gun-grabber stateside).

INCONVENIENT FACTOIDS:

<><>Feinstein heads the Senate Intel Committee;

<><> Her hubby Richard Blum made million as the lawyer for Chinese interests;

<><> gun-grabber Leland Yee knew where to get missiles, launchers, machine-guns etc;

<><> Raymond Chow was jailed, then freed when he professed to be a “really nice guy”.... honored by Di/Fi for working with local Chinese youths.

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EVERYBODY KNOWS THE DI/FI STORY COULD DWARF YEE'S ARMS DEAL: Taxpayers demand and investigation of Di/Fi's intel activities. <><> Did Di use her access to valuable US security data improperly? <><> Hubby Richard Blum made millions in China deals in past years. How'd he do that? <><> Is hubby cutting new deals w/ the Chi/Coms?

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ARE THE CLINTONS INVOLVED?----THIS DI/FI HILLARY SUCK-UP WAS VERY INSTRUCTIVE---DI even dropped the term "foreign policy" “In my view, she’s in the prime of her political life. She’s got the energy. She’s articulate. She’s got the background. She’s got the smarts. She has all of the elements of a good leader plus the fact, and this is not to be underestimated, she is enormously attractive to people,” she said on CNN's "State of the Union." “And she carries the torch for women who are the majority of votes in this country, very strongly and very high.”

Hillary's hefty income includes:

Hualuo CEO Forum (Spouse) Shanghai, China $550,000

Telefonaktiebolagel LM Ericsson AB (Spouse) Hong Kong, China $750,000

4 posted on 12/21/2014 6:41:51 AM PST by Liz (Pres Reagan on govt shutdown: "Let's close it down and see if anyone notices.")
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

She surely benefitted greatly from Milk’s assassination. Intelligent and curious folks want to know how much of the killer’s motivations were “planted” in his head by DiFi to cause him to do so, by innuendo and other means, playing on his susceptibility.


5 posted on 12/21/2014 6:54:47 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: Kaslin

Real torture would be having to listen to Diane Feinstein speeches twenty-four hours a day.


6 posted on 12/22/2014 5:49:10 AM PST by reg45 (It's fiction Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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