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Why single payer died in Vermont (too many freeloaders)
Politico ^ | 12/20/14 | Sarah Wheaton

Posted on 12/21/2014 5:32:07 AM PST by Libloather

**SNIP**

“It is not the right time for Vermont” to pass a single-payer system, Shumlin acknowledged in a public statement ending his signature initiative. He concluded the 11.5 percent payroll assessments on businesses and sliding premiums up to 9.5 percent of individuals’ income “might hurt our economy.”

Vermont’s outcome is a “small speed bump,” said New York Assembly member Richard Gottfried, who’s been pushing single-payer bills for more than 20 years. But opponents says it’s the end of the road.

“If cobalt blue Vermont couldn’t find a way to make single-payer happen, then it’s very unlikely that any other state will,” said Jack Mozloom, spokesman for the National Federation of Independent Business.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: freeloaders; payer; single; singlepayer; vermont
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Maybe the stupid people figured it out after a massive election defeat?
1 posted on 12/21/2014 5:32:07 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

What he’s saying - that the time is not yet right for Vermont - really says “we just ain’t there yet. The Federal government needs to step up and share the load.”

People who long term entitlement leeches search the country to find the best bite at the apple for the least effort. I know it, I’ve heard them talk about it. Go here...go there, they have the best welfare and services.....

For the areas the flock to, it always ends up being a crushing financial burden.


2 posted on 12/21/2014 5:36:00 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Libloather

Don’t know who’s the creator of this pearl, but like it. “The problem with Socialism is that eventually it runs out of other people’s money”. Hello Vermont, lol :)


3 posted on 12/21/2014 5:37:17 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Libloather

No.
Gun control was supposed to make denial of care for the masses viable.

The citizenry is no disarmed so single payer can not yet proceed as planned.


4 posted on 12/21/2014 5:38:04 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Gaffer

Welcome to Obama’s new Medicaid


5 posted on 12/21/2014 5:38:24 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: snoringbear

Margaret Thatcher. Man could we use another one of her.


6 posted on 12/21/2014 5:38:50 AM PST by Tulane
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To: Libloather

The Red States, who actually have basic economic intelligence, should refuse to pay for the wasteful socialist projects, such as “free” health care, in the Blue States. No more “free” anything. Pay for it yourself and go broke, but don’t count on the federal government ….which has no money that it hasn’t commandeered from taxpayers in all 50 states…to bail you out.


7 posted on 12/21/2014 5:42:19 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Libloather
".... might hurt our economy."

Got it. Until they are sure it will hurt the economy, they don't want to spend the political capital.

8 posted on 12/21/2014 5:43:11 AM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: Libloather

There are still WAY too many people that believe socialism will work here this time with the right people running it. They just didn’t vote in the mid-terms. They will be out in force in 2016.


9 posted on 12/21/2014 5:44:15 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: Libloather
“People have to ultimately understand that it’s going to cost them less even though their taxes go up,” McGuire said.

Um, what?

10 posted on 12/21/2014 5:47:07 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: snoringbear

Margaret Thatcher said that.


11 posted on 12/21/2014 5:48:40 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: MrEdd
Ding, ding, ding,

We have a winner!!

Gun control was supposed to make denial of care for the masses viable.

The citizenry is not disarmed so single payer can not yet proceed as planned.

Without a disarmed public nothing that Obola and the d'RATS want can proceed at the pace they would like. They have to suffer incrementalism instead of an outright declaration of that jug-eared mulatto muslim as pResident for life.

12 posted on 12/21/2014 5:49:50 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: snoringbear

Vermont has the additional advantage of a harsh enough climate that they aren’t overrun with freeloaders from all the third world garbage cans. IOW, it failed because most of the freeloaders who made it fail were of the home-grown variety.


13 posted on 12/21/2014 6:01:19 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Libloather
One thing the article failed to mention is that the now infamous Jonathon Gruber was hired by the state of Vermont to help write it's healthcare law.

After the SHTF over "Grubergate", Gruber was summarily fired and even though local media and newspapers obediently kept silent, enough exposure (via talk radio, etc.) to this fraud finally made it so unpopular, that even the good, Marxist Governor Shumlin was forced to abandon it.



14 posted on 12/21/2014 6:04:29 AM PST by PROCON (Merry CHRISTmas!!)
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To: Libloather

I think it’s pretty obvious that when there’s a large demand for the State to provide something that means individuals see it as too expensive or don’t want to pay for it. That’s what has happened with medicine. The “posted” prices bear no relationship to actual costs.


15 posted on 12/21/2014 6:06:53 AM PST by captain_dave
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To: Libloather

In liberal Vermont, they don’t want to pay the Canadian-style level of taxes required to finance single payer.

Canadians have different values from Americans. In VT, they wanted single payer without having to pay for it. No wonder it got scrapped.


16 posted on 12/21/2014 6:15:59 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Libloather

On the one hand, I’m actually a little disappointed. It would have been nice to be able to point to a failed, bankrupt state and say “ See, this is what will happen to the rest of us.”

On the other hand, after this inevitable failure, a lot of these nincompoops might cross the border into NH and make things worse than they already are.


17 posted on 12/21/2014 6:47:13 AM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes rights)
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To: Libloather

And Vermont is what, 90% White with few minorities/free-loaders?

And they still can’t pull off Socialized Medicine??!?!?!


18 posted on 12/21/2014 7:05:11 AM PST by TRY ONE (I never got the memo changing the name of Global Warming to Klimate Change)
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To: Libloather

““It is not the right time for Vermont” to pass a single-payer system, Shumlin acknowledged in a public statement ending his signature initiative. He concluded the 11.5 percent payroll assessments on businesses and sliding premiums up to 9.5 percent of individuals’ income “might hurt our economy.”

So when is the right time to hurt the economy of Vermont?


19 posted on 12/21/2014 7:24:19 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: snoringbear

Margaret Thatcher


20 posted on 12/21/2014 7:27:49 AM PST by verga
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