Posted on 12/11/2014 7:28:30 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
The federal government's funding authorization expires tonight at midnight, and the Republican plan to renew it bodes poorly for the GOP's leadership of Congress next year. ...
Congress shouldn't let the government shut down, but Republicans should neither acquiesce to president Obama's unprecedented executive power grab, nor give up control over the budget for well into the 114th Congress. ...
Republicans take control of both chambers in January, so they have no good reason to make a deal with the Senate Democratic leadership that sets spending levels until next October. ...
There are, as speaker Boehner has pointed out, some conservative victories in the cromnibus: a bar on funding an insurer bailout in Obamacare, a significant reduction in the barriers to donations to political parties, and more. But none of these things is nearly as important as resisting the president's executive overreach on immigration and setting conservative budget priorities in the next year. ...
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
This bill can be voted down - but it won’t be the end of the world.
After defeat of this cromnibus bill, and in less than an hour, a new bill can be voted on after parts have been stripped out. It isn’t rocket science...
“OMNIBUS” bills should be outlawed. They are deliberately contrived to prevent public scrutiny of their contents.
Not only that, but new law should be limited to be no longer than the Constitution (about 14 pages, give or take). This 2000+ page crap is opaque and therefore totalitarian.
No matter, if either vote for this CR and or vote for Boehner/McConnell for leadership positions, I'm done with them both.
Enough already. I'm a staunch constitutional conservative and damn proud of it.
I understand compromise, but I will never again lay aside my principals to appease the moderates or liberals. Ain't gonna happen.
I heard Boehner again refer to the Tea Party with disdain in his tone.
Tea party = TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY. We stand for limited government, lower taxes, lower regulation, pro-business, pro-constitution, pro-God/Christian, pro-family values, pro-American worker, patriotism, dominate military and technological advantage on the battle field.
If the GOP has a problem with the Tea Party, they have a problem with the above. If they have a problem with the above, then they are my adversary.
To hell with the notion, “vote for the lesser of two evils”.
They want my vote? Fix your damn candidates. YOU lay aside YOUR principals for a change. We've been sold a bill of goods and have laid aside our principals for two and a half decades to help along the party. No more.
Done! Moderates...you follow us conservatives. If we fall, we fall because the moderate/liberal republicans made it so.
We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldnt make any sense at all.” — President Ronald Reagan
Republicans must be patient: they have put just enough
in the bill so that Barry will sign it. They will really
go to work in January.
It won’t be defeated. No point in wasting time on such efforts.
Surely, all of us should know by now that Boner & his cronies are gonna do whatever they want to do. We the people be dammed.
That jackass needs to lose the Speakership when the new Congress organizes. McConnell shouldn’t get Senate Majority Leader either. They BOTH need to be replaced by real conservatives.
It’s entirely permissible and possible for the House to elect someone to be speaker that isn’t even in the Congress. I think it would be a terrific idea to bring in a total outsider to fill that role.
“It wont be defeated. No point in wasting time on such efforts....”
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DEFEATISM is not a becoming attribute in a conservative. We need to fight, and not concede, EVERY battle.
This CR will prevent the next Congress from using the power of the purse to control Obama: 1) Except for immigration, the budget will be in stone until the end of 2014 and 2) the power of the purse will not be used by the Republicans in 2015 due to fears of upsetting the 2016 elections. Bingo! We will lose the power of the purse for the next 2 years if this CR passes.
That’s the problem here.
This ‘battle’ isn’t in our hands. This is a ‘lame duck’ session, and they don’t give a DAMN about what we think about this. The whole thing is being handled by the political class. No point in wasting any energy on it. This is Boner’s and Reid’s show....
I agree, we need to fight this CR to the extent we can; even if we lose. Boehner FEARS the new Republican caucus that will come into power in January.
Boehner, in my opinion, is not worth a bucket of fresh Muslim piss.
Thanks for your post and activism, but let me know when there’s something that will actually solve our government problem. If the bill is defeated or radically changed, our problem remains. The problem is the people who control the government. They’ll just pass no bill, and still do what they want by fiat.
It’s not defeatism. It’s recognition that we’re fighting the wrong battle. It’s the same as the Americans’ vain remonstration to parliament. Yes, here’s where we are. “In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation.” Let this be my answer to you:
“We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!”
Roses are red, violets are blue;
Obamacares funded, and now Amnesty too!
The preceding is a lament about the Repubs rolling over, even funding the transport of HUNDREDS of dying Ebola patients to the US to infect the rest of us.
http://blogs.rollcall.com/white-house/obama-backs-cromnibus/
... he noted that it does not undo Obamacare, does not stop the presidents executive action on immigration, or curtail his sweeping climate change agenda, among other items.
Sing it Obama!
KEEP CALLING
7 ... That jackass needs to lose the Speakership when the new Congress organizes. McConnell shouldnt get Senate Majority Leader either. They BOTH need to be replaced by real conservatives. ...
11 ... Boehner FEARS the new Republican caucus that will come into power in January. Boehner, in my opinion, is not worth a bucket of fresh Muslim piss.
12/10/2014 - Kimberley Strassel on the GOP Game Plan Going into 2016
Excerpts from Kimberley Strassels speech at the David Horowitz Freedom Centers 20th Anniversary Restoration Weekend. The event took place Nov. 13th-16th at the Breakers Resort in Palm Beach, Florida. Stassel sits on the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal.
"... And this in my view will be the definition of Obamas behavior in his last 2 years in office. This is going to be a White House that continues to break in every form and fashion and to new levels of the boundaries of Presidential power. And the reason I think this is guaranteed is because I believe there is really only 1 lesson this President has learned in the last 6 years and that lesson is this. He has discovered, to his delight, that when he does this stuff, there really isnt anything anyone can do to stop him.
... the GOP has learned some very bruising lessons over the last couple of years, and theyve learned them the hard way. And so they come into this majority with those mistakes under their belt a little bit savvier perhaps than in recent years. And their greatest insight, in my mind, and the one that their ability to remember I think is going to define their success, is that they cant govern from Congress. You cant govern from Congress. You cant. You can push, you can demand, you can block, you can exert influence. Theyre going to have a bigger megaphone than they did because theyll now have both chambers. But its the other guy who has the veto pen, and they know that this President is going to use that pen to draw lines around certain of his priorities and to protect them at all cost. And so the trickiest thing the GOP is going to have to handle over the next two years is expectations management. They cannot afford to go out and promise to repeal Obamacare because they cant. And they cant reform Medicare. And they cant abolish the EPA. Thats just not going to happen.
What they can do, and what they must do, is instead lay out on the national stage an optimistic, creative, pro-growth, problem-solving agenda by moving a steady stream of targeted, sometimes smaller legislation, to the Presidents desk and daring him to say no to that. Set peace battles in which the GOP highlights very specific positive changes and then forces congressional Democrats and President Obama to make choices. And note this President has never had to do that before. For six years hes been protected by the Democratic Senate which spent its first two years only sending him his priorities, and the last four years shutting down the entire chamber to shield him from any controversial bills. And by the way, most of the Senate has never had to take a difficult vote. Do not underestimate the power of simply forcing the left to have to vote on some issues.
... Immigration. There is only one reason in my cynical little mind that the President is now threatening these immediate actions on immigration executive orders. It isnt to help the Hispanic community. It isnt to clarify the law. It probably isnt even likely because he believes that its great politics for him. It is for one reason only. It is to goad Republicans into acting like lunatics. And I know there is a very controversial question out there still, immigration, among the conservative ranks, but in my view Republicans would be very wise to act in a responsible way on some form of legislation and just clear this from their decks."
A pox on The Wall Street Journal.
... Audience Member: "John Boehner has already rolled over on immigration and is going to give us amnesty and it makes those of us who worked hard to get Republicans elected wonder what the effort was about and why the Republicans in the House cant seem to get a Republican as a leader. Would you like to comment on that?"
Kimberley Strassel: "Well, they just had elections. Anyone could have challenged him and nobody did. So I think one problem that has happened, and I would wager if you talked to members of Congress they would agree with this too, is that probably one of the failings of John Boehner and Mitch McConnell over the last few years is they havent actually talked to each other, and they havent necessarily talked to their conferences as much as they should and told them what theyre going to do and make an effort to get them onboard with it.
why are all these bills so massive in pages. This is absolutely ridiculous for a bill to be more than 25 pages. The government knows nothing of brevity, but sure knows stupidity and being long winded.
Easy. <
To hide the corruption.
Next.
Roses are red, violets are blue,
Obama’s a bastard and Boner’s one too.
Write your GOP legislators and legislators to be.
Tell them to flush Boner from the Speaker’s slot in 2015.
He and McConnell are traitors.
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