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Insurers fire back over ObamaCare changes (Laughable!)
The Hill ^ | 12/11/2014 | By Elise Viebeck

Posted on 12/11/2014 3:33:46 AM PST by tobyhill

The health insurance industry is firing back at Republicans' decision to cut government payments that could help plans struggling under the healthcare law.

America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) blasted legislation changing ObamaCare's "risk corridors" program and predicted that it would raise healthcare costs for families.

"American budgets are already strained by healthcare costs, and this change will lead to higher premiums for consumers and make it more difficult to achieve affordability," said Clare Krusing, AHIP spokeswoman.

"Our focus should be on changes to the law that will lower costs — like repealing the health insurance tax — not those that drive premiums higher."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare

1 posted on 12/11/2014 3:33:46 AM PST by tobyhill
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2 posted on 12/11/2014 3:43:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tobyhill
"American budgets are already strained by healthcare costs, and this change will lead to higher premiums for consumers and make it more difficult to achieve affordability," said Clare Krusing, AHIP spokeswoman.

American budgets are already strained by taxes and an over active government.

3 posted on 12/11/2014 3:46:57 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

What’s funny is these are the same insurers that went along with Obamacare.

Now they’re whining they’re not getting a bailout. Sucks to be them.


4 posted on 12/11/2014 3:48:49 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tobyhill

Any law taking us away from the free market creates winners and losers. The winners become a powerful constituent lobby to keep and “improve” the status quo. That is the danger of legislation. A law soon reaches a tipping point where it can’t be undone because the weight of the winners is too great to overcome. The ACA has created this constituency but the losers out-weigh and may out-vote the winners. Social Security is the most pernicious example I can think of as a law so far past the tipping point that it may consume both winners and losers.


5 posted on 12/11/2014 3:49:13 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

Social Security is a valid premise that secured bipartisan support.

Its a self-insurance scheme.

On the other hand, Obamacare doesn’t actually insure people at all. It received only Democratic party-line support.


6 posted on 12/11/2014 3:51:48 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
What’s funny is these are the same insurers that went along with Obamacare.

It was more than just going along. They were lobbying/leading the charge.

The only group involved in health care that didn't have a hand in designing this fiasco was consumers (patients).

7 posted on 12/11/2014 3:53:22 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: goldstategop

“Its a self-insurance scheme.”

It was sold as a trust fund. It was until Johnson unified the budget and stole the fund for his big war and social programs. As it started out giving money to people who had never contributed it never lived up to the insurance or trust fund model. It was just socialism in a nice bipartisan wrapper. The lack of bipartisan support is the nail that will doom (hopefully) Obamacare.


8 posted on 12/11/2014 3:58:48 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: tobyhill

These crooks were cheerleaders for passing obamacare. They act like they care about healthcare costs for families.


9 posted on 12/11/2014 3:59:11 AM PST by Moorings
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To: Moorings

Just as well since few can afford their crappy product.


10 posted on 12/11/2014 4:03:27 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tobyhill

"I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."

These insurance companies got into bed with the government thinking they were being guaranteed huge profits in perpetuity on the backs of the American Taxpayer.

Bad assumption.

11 posted on 12/11/2014 4:39:10 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Every driver with a "Ready For Hillary" bumper sticker had to scrape off a "Obama 12" bumper sticker)
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To: Sooth2222

“The only group involved in health care that didn’t have a hand in designing this fiasco was consumers (patients). “

I’m not sure the average doctors taking care of average Americans were involved either. The physician community was represented by Zeke Emanuel, the AMA (to which most doctors do not belong), and some MD’s from elite medical schools who likely rarely see a patient.

My primary physician, and the specialists who care for me, hate the ACA.


12 posted on 12/11/2014 4:45:26 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: goldstategop
What’s funny is these are the same insurers that went along with Obamacare. Now they’re whining they’re not getting a bailout. Sucks to be them.

Yepper -they were promised a wide open spigot from the gravy boat and expect to get their welfare benefits like everyone else that depends on the government for their livelihood...

13 posted on 12/11/2014 5:02:22 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: goldstategop

No, it’s GREAT to be them. Their path is greased and their downside is largely contained, at least until the entire system collapses.


14 posted on 12/11/2014 5:21:10 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: tobyhill

Bump


15 posted on 12/11/2014 5:23:57 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Soul of the South
"Doctors Still Back Obamacare's Individual Mandate Despite Emboldened GOP"

If doctors still support the individual mandate, this represents a fundamental problem because the mandate widens the gap between health care delivery and free market forces. It doesn't make health care more responsive to free market forces.

It does seem that the primary care specialty organizations had input into the ACA. If your primary care physician belongs to the American Academy of Family Physicians, or some similar organization, you might ask why she voted for the people who represented her organization and supported Obamacare.

16 posted on 12/11/2014 5:36:33 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: tobyhill

Hey, you dance with the Devil and eventually he sticks a pitchfork in your ass. No sympathy here.


17 posted on 12/11/2014 5:53:39 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: goldstategop
"American budgets are already strained by healthcare costs, and this change will lead to higher premiums for consumers and make it more difficult to achieve affordability," said Clare Krusing, AHIP spokeswoman.

Seems to me like the Whiny bitch doesn't like the tables being turned on them. Any chance they will second guess their negotiating with the Devil to screw over the Public? Nah...

18 posted on 12/11/2014 6:02:57 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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“It does seem that the primary care specialty organizations had input into the ACA.”

Organizations representing professionals, industries, and causes tend to be run by professional administrators and lobbyists. These people have their own networks and buddy system. Unlike Hillary in the 1990’s who tried to ram healthcare through, Obama and his fellow community organizers spent their first year getting the “club” on board through bribes and peer pressure.

Ultimately paid bureaucrats and lobbyists, like most humans involved in management, manage their careers first and job responsibilities second. John Smith may head the American Academy of Family Physicians today and two years from now he may be looking for a job heading up the AARP or the Sierra Club. Very few ambitious people seeking to better themselves in a profession will fight against the tidal wave when it begins to rise. The average physician is too busy seeing patients to get into the details of health care policy. No doubt the professional administrators running their professional organizations gave them the soundbites explaining the ACA was better for them than alternatives.


19 posted on 12/11/2014 6:34:31 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Haiku Guy
Back when I was in the drug industry, I heard a VP of Astra Zeneca telling us how much they supported MediCare Part D and how good this was going to be for pharmaceuticals. Yes, creating a monopsony, a market with only one buyer, was going to be good for the pharmaceutical business. Moron.

You know, I've thought about this, and my only conclusion was that these big pharma execs pushing big government, was that their own stock options would benefit from new purchases, before the dog starting biting and squeezing the pricing on drugs. By that time, those specific executives would have cashed out and been long gone, while the consumers, industry and research all would be getting screwed forever more.

20 posted on 12/11/2014 9:03:22 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have freedom or government schools. Choose one.)
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