Posted on 12/04/2014 10:03:48 AM PST by Biggirl
A homicide does not mean murder or wrongful death.
As Brietbart reported: “The autopsy from the medical examiner attributed his death to homicide – meaning death at the hands of another party, not murder, in medical parlance – and stated that he died thanks to “Compression of neck (choke hold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police.” But the autopsy further noted that Garner died thanks to acute and chronic bronchial asthma, obesity, and heart disease.”
I’m not even sure that I buy that coroner’s conclusion considering that-
“An ambulance was immediately called to the scene and Mr. Garner was transported by EMS to Richmond University Medical Center. He went into cardiac arrest while he was in the vehicle. He was pronounced dead approximately one hour later at the hospital.”
This is nonsense! The cop improperly applied the “choke” hold, and should be prosecuted for manslaughter. Oh wait, it’s a choke hold so the perp was actually supposed to choke to death. There are a number of police shootings in the news recently, but in at least this one, the cop should be imprisoned. They had 4-5 cops take this guy down, and he died because some POS choked him to death!?
As a follow-up, there is a rule in law that “you take that victim as you find them” meaning, all physical maladies the victim may have had, yet unknown, figure into the action. This is usually applied to the perpetrator, who is the criminal. However, clearly, the chokehold was only momentary, but the overall physical condition of the victim appears to be far more contributory than the chokehold is alleged to have been.
That is obvious. But it is defined as a death caused by another human being. So which of these six cops caused the death? Denying culpability of this event by the cops just isn't the case in this event.
And for an unarmed man for selling single cigarettes?
I am as big of supporter of LEO as anyone else, but these cops are coming across as much as thugs as the criminal they apprehended. Disgusting.
11 Facts About the Eric Garner Case the Media Won’t Tell You
Newsmax
11 Facts About the Eric Garner Case the Media Won’t Tell You
Thursday, December 4, 2014 11:40 AM
By: Jim Meyers
Sources in the mainstream media expressed outrage after a grand jury declined to indict a New York City policeman in the death of Eric Garner, but there are 11 significant facts that many of them have chosen to overlook:
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1. There is no doubt that Garner was resisting an arrest for illegally selling untaxed cigarettes. Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik put it succinctly: “You cannot resist arrest. If Eric Garner did not resist arrest, the outcome of this case would have been very different,” he told Newsmax. “He wouldn’t be dead today.
“Regardless of what the arrest was for, the officers don’t have the ability to say, ‘Well, this is a minor arrest, so we’re just going to ignore you.’”
2. The video of the July 17 incident clearly shows Garner, an African-American, swatting away the arms of a white officer seeking to take him into custody, telling him: “Don’t touch me!”
3. Garner, 43, had history of more than 30 arrests dating back to 1980, on charges including assault and grand larceny.
4. At the time of his death, Garner was out on bail after being charged with illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession and false impersonation.
5. The chokehold that Patrolman Daniel Pantaleo put on Garner was reported to have contributed to his death. But Garner, who was 6-foot-3 and weighed 350 pounds, suffered from a number of health problems, including heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea. Pantaleo’s attorney and police union officials argued that Garner’s poor health was the main cause of his death.
Read;
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/eric-garner-chokehold-grand-jury-police/2014/12/04/id/611058/
Whichever cop was with him at the hospital where he died.
(Hint 1: None of them, that’s why they weren’t charged with causing his death.)
Just because the the corner said his death was a homicide doesn’t mean the coroner was correct.
Especially considering that he suffered a heart attack in the ambulance on the way to the hospital, and then later died at the hospital.
(Hint 2: He appears to have died from a heart attack that he suffered while in an ambulance on the way to the hospital, and was pronounced dead at the hospital. I don’t think he had a cop hanging on his neck when he died an hour later at the hospital.)
Don’t you find it curious that no one at all is reporting that he suffered a heart attack in the ambulance on the way to the hospital and then died an hour later at the hospital?
Why do you think that no one is bothering to report this?
Why is it being reported that he died after being put in a choke hold by a cop? Because you know, he really didn’t die after that, he died after suffering a heart attack in an ambulance on the way to a hospital.
Another fact that the media won’t tell us is that he died at a hospital after suffering a heart attack in an ambulance while being transported to the hospital.
This occurred more than an hour after he was arrested.
Seems like an important detail to me.
I am listening to today’s broadcast of Buck Sexton’s radio show, and this man is arguing that the man died right there on the sidewalk and no ambulance was even called for him.
People do not even have any idea what even happened in this case.
He was then followed by a woman who said that the officers stood around and watched him die on the ground...
This entire country is hands up, don’t shoot, bat sh!t crazy and ignorant as Hell.
Using your flawed logic, you could state that after a person is shot he died specifically of circulatory hemorrhage on the way to the hospital rather than that the 38 slug that got pumped into him.
Cop had nuttin' to do with it. It was that dang hole in his stomach. GEEEESSH!
I wonder what his FR nick is?
“I am listening to today’s broadcast of Buck Sexton’s radio show, and this man is arguing that the man died right there on the sidewalk and no ambulance was even called for him.”
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Last Updated Dec 4, 2014 7:45 AM EST
“The heavyset father of six, who had asthma, was heard repeatedly gasping, “I can’t breathe!” He later died at a hospital.”
I never said that. I simply said that the hold the officer used was sanctioned by the NYPD, that his black supervisor was at the scene, and didn't feel it was excessive force. Nobody knows what the exact charges of the case were. Different charges bring a different set of requirements for finding someone guilty. If the Grand Jury, which more than likely consisted of blacks didn't feel it was excessive, based on the charges presented them, than I'm not going to argue their decision.
In my career, I had to use physical force on individuals. I was only allowed to use the amount of force necessary to get the individual to comply with an order. Had I overstepped the line, I would have been investigated, and most likely been brought up on departmental charges. In this case, I haven't read anything about the NYPD pursuing departmental charges against this officer. If they did, then they would have to go after every other officer/supervisor who was at the scene at the time of incident.
Good explanation. I am sure that standard is variable to different LEO agencies. Would your force had considered this event an indictable offense?
This NEEDS TO BE PLASTERED all over Kindom Come, because no one seem to know this detail AT ALL.
People seem to think that he was choked to death right then and there while people stood around and watched him die.
Even Buck Sexton does not know where he actually expired at.
Oh boy, talk about comparing apples to catfish.
Being placed in a head lock in order to effect arrest against a person who is resisting arrest ISN’T THE ****ING SAME AS BEING SHOT WITH A 38 SLUG, IS IT!?
NO, NO IT ISN’T, AND WHY ISN’T IT!? BECAUSE PUMPING A 38 SLUG INTO SOMEONE DEMONSTRATES INTENT TO KILL, BUT PUTTING SOMEONE IN A HEAD LOCK DOESN’T!!
And you have the damn nerve to call my logic flawed?
You have no logic, you are utterly irrational.
Hands up, don’t shoot!
Grab a sign, dude, go protest with the other morons who can’t think at all.
Not if I'd used a hold that the department taught me, and applied it according to departmental guidelines.
And btw, your comment about my support for LEO's is insulting and slanderous. You don't know who the "f" I am, and I sure don't want to know who you are. People like you give Freepers a bad name. Later bub!
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