Posted on 12/04/2014 6:43:08 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Democrats are arguing among themselves about whether to focus on the poor, who are not reliable voters, or the middle class, who have started to turn to the Republican Party.
Influential Democrats who have strongly defended Obama-Care for years are now publicly questioning whether the law was worth the political fallout.
Passage of the Affordable Care Act marked the start of a political unraveling for the Democratic Party, which lost huge majorities in Congress and control of a majority of state governorships in the last four and a half years.
Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the third-ranking member of the Senate Democratic leadership, said last week that ObamaCare was not worth the political cost. And hes not alone.
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), the chairman of the Senate Health Education Labor and Pensions Committee, told The Hill that Democrats should have enacted a single-payer healthcare system or a public option. In retrospect, Harkin said, Democrats should have not passed the bill they did. While he says the ACA enacted some good reforms, he bemoans its daunting complexity.
Schumers and Harkins recent remarks are quite different than in prior years. After the Supreme Court upheld ObamaCares individual mandate, Harkin hailed the ruling as great news for Americas families, businesses and our economy. The Affordable Care Act moves us forward where every person has affordable, quality healthcare in America.
Schumer, meanwhile, in 2010 said, I predict by November those who voted for healthcare will find it an asset; those who voted against it will find it a liability.
But the law has struggled to gain traction with the public and has been a boon to the GOP politically. In short, many Democrats are tired of waiting.
The public criticism of the law, the centerpiece of President Obamas legacy, has ignited a debate within the Democratic Party.
Democrats are arguing among themselves about whether to focus on the poor, who are not reliable voters, or the middle class, who have started to turn to the Republican Party.
Schumer argued at a speech at the National Press Club that Democrats blew the opportunity the American people gave them by passing healthcare reform in 2009 and 2010 instead of working on economic legislation designed to help middle-class voters.
He estimates that uninsured Americans who were the primary beneficiaries of healthcare reform made up only about 5 percent of the electorate in 2010, when Republicans captured the House.
ObamaCare was a huge rallying cry of Republicans in the 2010 midterms, which helped them rack up support from white, middle-class voters. In 2014, ObamaCare was less front and center, though it certainly helped the GOP.
Harkin, who co-authored the law and is retiring at the end of this Congress, said, We had the power to do it in a way that would have simplified healthcare, made it more efficient and made it less costly, and we didnt do it, So I look back and say we should have either done it the correct way or not done anything at all.
What we did is we muddled through and we got a system that is complex, convoluted, needs probably some corrections and still rewards the insurance companies extensively, he added.
These critiques have spawned a sharp debate among Democrats.
Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.), another architect of ObamaCare, hailed the law as a historic achievement and strongly disagreed with Schumer and Harkin.
Healthcare has been a subject of debate in this country for a hundred years, and when you had the opportunity to rationalize the system and to get people covered who were never covered, you have to take that opportunity, he said.
Rep. Steve Israel (N.Y.), who chaired the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee this cycle, said he agrees with Schumer that the party should focus on the middle class.
But I do not believe that we should relitigate the political strategies in passing the Affordable Care Act, he said.
Miller, who is close to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), said people approach him every day to thank him and relate their personal stories of gaining access to healthcare.
He noted that reform-minded presidents throughout the 20th century including Bill Clinton, Harry Truman and Theodore Roosevelt have called for expanding access to healthcare.
Teddy Roosevelt couldnt do it, when he had the balls of a gorilla, said Miller, who noted that Democrats also failed to reform healthcare when they had 61 seats in the Senate and controlled the White House in 1977 and 1978.
Schumers analysis elicited a pointed response from Pelosi.
We come here to do a job, not keep a job. There are more than 14 million reasons why thats wrong, Pelosi said in a written statement, referring to people who gained health coverage through the law.
Some Democratic lawmakers sympathize with both arguments.
I certainly agree with the sentiment that the timing was tough due to the economic crisis that was gripping our country. On the other hand, I think if you were to ask the president, I would assume the president would counter, I did it when we could, said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.).
Sen. Jon Tester (Mont.), the incoming chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee , applauded Schumers message to the party that it needs to focus more on the needs of middle-class voters.
I think, moving forward, hes spot on, he said. I think we need to focus on the middle class, the economy, and opportunity and prosperity.
But Miller said its wishful thinking to believe Democrats could have passed another economic stimulus package in 2009 had they skipped pushing healthcare reform.
The idea that you could have traded that for stimulus? Remember, we had a stimulus package. They cut the stimulus in half. They put half of it in tax cuts which lowered the stimulus amount, he said of leadership negotiations with Republicans and Democratic centrists.
Harkin believes Democrats could have created a government-provided insurance option by working harder to win over three centrists: former Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) and Ben Nelson (D-Neb.).
The House passed [a] public option. We had the votes in the Senate for cloture, he said.
There were only three Democrats that held out and we could have had those three, he added. We could have had all three of them if the president would have been just willing to do some political things, but he wouldnt do it.
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), who backed legislation to create a public option, questioned whether Obama could have moved Democratic centrists.
I never saw that opening and Im a keen supporter of the public option and wish we had it, but I just didnt see the votes, he said.
But Whitehouse, along with many Democrats, agrees that bending over backward to assuage the political concerns of Lieberman, Nelson, Lincoln and other moderates didnt pan out.
I dont think it would have been any more politically fraught if it had passed, he said of the public option.
Tester voiced a similar view.
We certainly wouldnt have gotten any more criticism, he said.
Other Democrats say its too painful to play the what-if game.
The law is the law, and whatever Schumer or anybody else thinks about what we should have done, we did it and its done. Weve got to move on, said Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.).
That always has been Obama's focus.
Destroying the middle class, the economy, opportunity and prosperity.
The only thing I’d like to see DIMocRATs is arguing with their counselor as whether or not to accept a plea deal on lesser charges and about the prison time they will have. They are unrepentant, chronic liars and criminals.
And then expect the people to eat it if it ends up being garbage.
What else did they expect?
WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THIS
get them to keep asking themselves that, and lead them to say “maybe this law IS so bad it needs to be scrapped”
Democrats to the American people:
“Don’t worry about that big pile of POOP we dropped on you - that mess that is stinking up your lives! We got more and better things up our sleeves to help you out!”
It will not inoculate the 'rats from what they have done (and the GOPe not undone).
Its all political posturing and a diversion from the COMPREHENSIVE FAILURES of this administration and the democrat party.
Exactly!
Obama never cared about O'care. It was just a detail to him. He's focused on the big picture -- fundamentally transforming America. And we know what that means.
Not too bright . . . has taken them almost 6 years and 3 cycles of congressional elections to figure out we still don’t like or want OCare.
Their calculation that America would become addicted to subsidies and fall in love with the law by now was way, way off.
They don’t regret their vote. Only that Obama effed-up the implementation.
The democrat party still loves Ocare, even more than the GOP, but it has to prepare to succeed in post-Obama America.
It will transform itself into the ACAs most dedicated critic and offer bill after bill to 'correct' it while the GOP sits with its thumb in its nose. At least so will say the MSM.
It’s pretty simple to my way of thinking. You take a health care system,add in some additional & very questionable services,run it through the gov’t. & yet expect it to cost less????.....this is crazy thinking.
Stupidity = Political fallout
In other words, the democrats thought that getting people hooked on more government would lead to more votes. They didn't give a crap about actually insuring the uninsured. It was all about the net increase in votes. Now that they see they will get the arse handed to them, they have regrets. To hell with whether people actually have health insurance, the democrats lost politically and that is all that matters to them.
That’s because Obama wasn’t interested in providing anybody with healthcare. He wanted government to become more and more intrusive in people’s daily lives.
if you believe voting for it was the right thing to do, then it was the right thing to do... who cares about political fall out... if you are good, virtuous, then voting for this because it was the right thing to do is all that matters... right? oh--but you are not virtuous... you are political... voting has consequences...
I can’t say what I think, but the democRATS should think of themselves as dogs with urban police department swaggerers breathing down their necks.
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