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Pope says it is wrong to equate Islam with violence
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 11/30/2014 | Philip Pullella

Posted on 11/30/2014 4:03:48 PM PST by FR_addict

ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (Reuters) - Pope Francis said on Sunday that equating Islam with violence was wrong and called on Muslim leaders to issue a global condemnation of terrorism to help dispel the stereotype.

Francis, the leader of 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, told reporters aboard his plane returning from a visit to Turkey that he understood why Muslims were offended by many in the West who automatically equated their religion with terrorism.

Francis' predecessor, Benedict XVI, caused storms of protest throughout the Islamic world in 2006, when he made a speech that suggested to many Muslims that he believed Islam espoused violence. ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: francis; islam; istanbul; pope; popefrancis; romancatholicism; turkey
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To: TigersEye
"Stealth Jihad" alive and active in the US.


161 posted on 12/01/2014 11:46:24 AM PST by caww
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To: FR_addict

No wonder there are Protestants that claim the Pope is the Antichrist! This will not help the catholic church


162 posted on 12/01/2014 11:50:50 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: hondact200
that claim the Pope is the Antichrist

The papacy, not a specific Pope, unless the shoe fits.

163 posted on 12/01/2014 12:31:05 PM PST by xone
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To: Steelfish

Maybe I’m a coward too, but I’ll tell you what, I never kissed a Koran in my life.


164 posted on 12/01/2014 12:52:39 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: MplsSteve
He’s a Jesuit - IOW, a religious Communist.


 Two men considering a religious vocation were having a conversation... 

"What is similar about the Jesuit and Dominican Orders? " the one asked.

The second replied, "Well, they were both founded by Spaniards -- St. Dominic for the Dominicans, and St. Ignatius of Loyola for the Jesuits. 
They were also both founded to combat heresy -- the Dominicans to fight the Albigensians, and the Jesuits to fight the Protestants." 

 "What is different about the Jesuit and Dominican Orders?" 

 "Met any Albigensians lately?"  


165 posted on 12/01/2014 1:24:49 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ecomcon

Well; figuratively, Peter Kassig did; and look where it got him!


166 posted on 12/01/2014 1:26:36 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boycott
Pope needs to read a Quran and learn what it says.

And the Bible, in contrast .

167 posted on 12/01/2014 5:14:04 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: FR_addict
Pope Francis said on Sunday that equating Islam with violence was wrong and called on Muslim leaders to issue a global condemnation of terrorism to help dispel the stereotype.


168 posted on 12/01/2014 5:46:38 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: TalBlack

“Has the Pope no history books? Does he not know the history of his own office?”

The pope is a Jesuit. They are probably the most educated of all the priests. He knows. He doesn’t care.


169 posted on 12/01/2014 5:47:56 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Elsie
Two men considering a religious vocation were having a conversation... "What is similar about the Jesuit and Dominican Orders? " the one asked.

The second replied, "Well, they were both founded by Spaniards -- St. Dominic for the Dominicans, and St. Ignatius of Loyola for the Jesuits. They were also both founded to combat heresy -- the Dominicans to fight the Albigensians, and the Jesuits to fight the Protestants."

"What is different about the Jesuit and Dominican Orders?"

"Met any Albigensians lately?"

Hysterical.

Got any knee-slappers about Auschwitz?

170 posted on 12/01/2014 5:50:56 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: SaraJohnson
“There is no doubt that Allah is not God. He’s an evil god. It was like my mom bought me a horror movie.”

That's what I can't figure out. If this is not a cult, explain to me why the leader was a pedophile. Comapare what Mohammed says to what Jesus said about the little children.
Compare what Jesus says when they started stoning the woman who had committed adultery to what Mohamed said. One is evil, one is good.

“If the Pope has actually read the Koran and still calls allah the Christian’s God, God help him.”

Jesuits are very educated, so I can't believe he hasn't read it. It is wilful disregard to God's word.

171 posted on 12/01/2014 5:59:12 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: caww
...” Pope Francis said on Sunday that equating Islam with violence was wrong “...

While it is true that not all who care called Muslims advocate religious violence in fighting the West, the Qur'an and Hadith and their founder certainly provide support, while what has been missed is that,

Pope equates Muslim extremists with Christian fundamentalists:

The Argentine pope, who has been trying to foster cooperation with moderate Islam in order to work for peace and protect Christians in the Middle East, said it was wrong for anyone to react to terrorism by being "enraged" against Islam.

"You just can’t say that, just as you can’t say that all Christians are fundamentalists. We have our share of them (fundamentalists). All religions have these little groups," he said. -http://news.yahoo.com/pope-visits-iconic-religious-sites-istanbul-073647316.html

172 posted on 12/01/2014 6:05:26 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

That’s a good site. Astonishing to me how Muslims use parts of the Bible and then tell us it is corrupt. Truth must have been difficult for Muhammad so he created a religion to suit his lifestyle.


173 posted on 12/01/2014 8:13:38 PM PST by boycott
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To: boycott
That’s a good site. Astonishing to me how Muslims use parts of the Bible and then tell us it is corrupt. Truth must have been difficult for Muhammad so he created a religion to suit his lifestyle.

Praise God it helped. I think that as Muhammad was illiterate and among people largely illiterate in Scripture, and as he was dependent on their often skewed versions of Christian teaching (thus his conclusion at one point that the Trinity was God, Jesus and Mary), that He actually believed - at first at least - that he was in corrective conformity with Scripture, or most of it, thus the appeal to go to the people of the Book.

Later the absurd assertion that the Bible was radically altered had to be made up to explain the extensive contradictions. Absurd because there is zero mss evidence for the Quranic contradictions, and which would require almost a complete rewritting of the NT and substantiation changes to the old.

And if Rome had the will and power to do so then it did a very poor job, as it would not have been hard to make simple changes or additions such as showing believers kneeing before statutes, and praying to angels and departed saints in Heaven, and or NT pastors being given the same distinctive title as Hebrew priests, and constantly officiating over the Lord's supper as a sacrifice for sins, and means of obtaining spiritual life, and or the whole church looking to Peter as its supreme exalted head in Rome, and infants being baptized, etc.

174 posted on 12/01/2014 8:55:40 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Talisker
Got any knee-slappers about Auschwitz?

Let's see...



Nope; but THIS one might work for ya.



A Jewish couple has a son who is a holy terror. When he gets to be of age, he's kicked out of every school they put him in. 

Finally desperate, the father goes to the Rabbi for advice and the Rabbi says put him in the Catholic school. 

Shocked, the father asks if the Rabbi is sure. "Yes" is the reply, so the father takes him to the nuns and leaves. 

 An hour goes by, then two hours, lunch time and finally at three the son comes in says "Good afternoon Papa, 
Good afternoon Mama," goes to the table and starts on his homework. 

The father is amazed and finally ask why he stayed in school all day and why he is behaving so well. 

His son looks up and says "Papa when you left, the Mother Superior told me that they did not allow rowdy boys, then she took me to my room. 

Papa they mean business! They've got a Jew nailed on a Cross in every room!" 

175 posted on 12/02/2014 5:24:05 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FR_addict

Does a Muslim have to behead him before he understands?


176 posted on 12/02/2014 7:52:42 AM PST by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: daniel1212
“Pope equates Muslim extremists with Christian fundamentalists:”

I noticed that too, but forgot to point it out. I should have put it in my first post. You are right, this was very upsetting. Yes, there are some people that call themselves Christian fundamentalists that are violent, but they are not real Christian fundamentalists since they are not following Jesus’ commands. You wonder about a Pope who equates a Christian fundamentalist with a Muslim extremist. Who does he really represent?

177 posted on 12/02/2014 8:28:13 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Elsie

I thought it was funny. Thanks for sharing.


178 posted on 12/02/2014 8:29:00 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: NRA1995

“Does a Muslim have to behead him before he understands?”

Evidently. John Paul was shot by a Muslim (although they claim his religion had nothing to do with the shooting), then John Paul kisses the Koran.


179 posted on 12/02/2014 8:35:44 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
“Pope equates Muslim extremists with Christian fundamentalists:” I noticed that too, but forgot to point it out. I should have put it in my first post. You are right, this was very upsetting. Yes, there are some people that call themselves Christian fundamentalists that are violent, but they are not real Christian fundamentalists since they are not following Jesus’ commands. You wonder about a Pope who equates a Christian fundamentalist with a Muslim extremist. Who does he really represent?

Indeed. Jesus was a fundamentalist. Safe to say that most of the regular Prot posters on the RF here would (and should) ID as fundamentalist, as meaning holding Scripture to be the supreme transcendent standard for faith and morals as the wholly inspired and accurate Word of God.

In contrast to the liberal revisionism, such as seen for decades in many of the commentary teachings in the RC NAB Bibles, that the modern fundamentalist evangelical (used to be basically the same) movement originally arose to combat.

180 posted on 12/02/2014 10:16:59 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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