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SpaceX will attempt to land Falcon 9 boot December 9th on a floating platform and then reuse it
Next Big Future ^ | Octiber 27, 2014 | Next Big Future

Posted on 11/25/2014 3:44:13 PM PST by Vince Ferrer

Elon Musk spoke at the MIT Aeronautics and Astronautics Department's 2014 Centennial celebration. The October 22-24 Centennial Symposium featuring some of the most illustrious names in aerospace reflecting on past achievement, celebrating today’s innovative research and education, and offering their perspectives on what lies ahead.

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk said his company will make a first attempt to land the booster stage of its Falcon 9 rocket on a floating platform during the upcoming ISS resupply mission. If the attempt is successful, the company plans to refurbish and reuse the booster stage, making spaceflight history and paving the way for a significant reduction in the cost of access to space.

Propellant only makes up a tiny percentage (in the case of a Falcon 9 rocket, about 0.3 percent) of the cost of the craft, so being able to reuse all the hardware for multiple flights could potentially slash the cost of spaceflight by a factor of 10 or more.

SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk has said that, on the fifth resupply mission planned for December 9th, the reusable rocket program is ready to go one step further: instead of a soft water landing, the first stage will attempt for the first time to propulsively land on a floating platform in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

"Before we boost back to the launch site and try to land there, we need to show that we can land with precision over and over again," said Musk. "So for the upcoming launch we've got a chance of landing on a floating platform. We have a huge platform that is being constructed at a shipyard in Louisiana right now which is 300 feet long by 170 feet wide (90 by 50 meters)."

"If we land on that [platform], I think we'll be able to refly that booster," Musk continued. "It's probably not more of a 50 percent chance of landing it on the platform [on the first try], but there's a lot of launches that will occur over the next year, at least a dozen, so I think it's quite likely, probably 80 or 90 percent likely, that one of those flights will be able to land and refly."

SpaceX Tests Fins On Reusable Rocket Flight | Video

The steerable fins provide control during fly back. They can be seen deploying about a minute and 15 seconds into the flight. This test flight of the Falcon 9 Reusable (F9R) occurred on June 17th, 2014. There was an analysis of a reusable launch system where the cost of developing the reusable launch system was $36 billion. If Spacex is successful they will have developed reusability for about $100 million.

There were also prior ideas involving large ground infrastructure such as giant magnetic launching systems

"The payload penalty for full and fast reusability versus an expendable version is roughly 40 percent," Musk says. "[But] propellant cost is less than 0.4 percent of the total flight cost. Even taking into account the payload reduction for reusability, the improvement is therefore theoretically over a hundred times."

A hundred times is an incredible gain. It would drop cost for Musk’s Falcon Heavy rocket—a scaled-up version of the Falcon 9 that’s currently rated at $1000 per pound to orbit—to just $10. "That, however, requires a very high flight rate, just like aircraft," Musk says. "At a low flight rate, the improvement is still probably around 50 percent. For Falcon Heavy, that would mean a price per pound to orbit of less than $500.

Falcon Heavy is particularly amenable to reuse of the first stage—the two outer cores in particular, because they separate at a much lower velocity than the center one, being dropped off early in the flight.

Turnaround Time

Bringing down the cost of rocket launches isn’t just about reusability; as Musk’s quote suggests, it’s also about turnaround time. The original premise of the space shuttle program was that the vehicle would be turned around within days; it ended up being months, which is one of the reasons that it never met its cost goals.

What about a reusable Falcon? Musk says he expects "single-digit hours" between landing and next flight, at least for the lower stages. "For the upper stage, there is the additional constraint of the orbit ground track needing to overfly the landing pad, since cross-range [the distance to a landing site that it can fly to either side of its original entry flight path] is limited. At most this adds 24 hours to the upper-stage turnaround."

Translation: One of the other reasons that the shuttle was so expensive was that it had very large wings to give the vehicle a thousand miles of cross-range. The Air Force demanded this feature, which would have allowed the shuttle to return to its launch site after a single orbit, though it was never used. But SpaceX doesn’t mandate that cross-range feature. Therefore its craft would have to wait a little bit for the Earth to rotate and bring the landing site around again, but this would make SpaceX missions cheaper because the rockets don’t have to carry so much propellant in this stage.

What does it imply for flight rate? "Multiple flights per day for first stage and side boosters," Musk says. "At least one flight per day for the upper stage" (which costs much less, anyway).

So what does that mean for ticket prices in the future? Musk tells us that with daily flights, the cost will run about $100 per pound. For the average male, that means about 20,000 bucks. Start saving your money.

Is there demand for forty thousand flight per year ? 100 space flights per day at $100 per pound ?

There were 77 successful orbital launches in 81 attempts in 2013.

Those launches were for about $2000-8,000 per pound.

There are new far more capable cubesats. Having a lot of lower cost payload would boost demand for low cost launches.

Planetary Resources is making $1 million space telescopes.

Bigelow Aerospace wants to launch inflatable space stations for space hotels and for space stations for every nation with a space program.

Commercial satellites generate about $150 billion per year in revenue and use about $4 billion in launch services.

Daily launches of one reusable rocket is 365 launches. If you have 100 reusable rockets all flying daily then you need demand for 36,500 launches. If the payload capacity is 8 to 50 tons. This would be 180,000 tons to 1.8 million tons.

There would be need for more launch facilities.

There would need to be a system for rapidly prepping the payloads. Some kind of standard container system for loading them. A space version of a shipping container.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: business; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; nasa; science; spaceexploration; spacex
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SpaceX CEO Elon Musk said his company will make a first attempt to land the booster stage of its Falcon 9 rocket on a floating platform during the upcoming ISS resupply mission. If the attempt is successful, the company plans to refurbish and reuse the booster stage, making spaceflight history and paving the way for a significant reduction in the cost of access to space.

Here is the target:

"Autonomous spaceport drone ship. Thrusters repurposed from deep sea oil rigs hold position within 3m even in a storm. " - Elon Musk

This is probably the biggest space thing since the Apollo moon landing. If they are successful, we will see moon bases, asteroid mining, and Mars bases.

1 posted on 11/25/2014 3:44:13 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
If they are successful, we will see moon bases, asteroid mining, and Mars bases.

And if they fail we will still see moon bases, asteroid mining, and Mars bases, and about the same timeframe.

2 posted on 11/25/2014 3:46:03 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Vince Ferrer

This is soooo cool. Just like the science fiction rockets when I was a kid!


3 posted on 11/25/2014 3:53:53 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Vince Ferrer

Mark my words, SpaceX will be the very first to get mining going outside our atmosphere. Nobody else is remotely close to them.


4 posted on 11/25/2014 3:54:42 PM PST by wastedyears (I may be stupid, but at least I'm not Darwin Awards stupid.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I know that a sea LAUNCH from the equator poses advantage because (terrestrial) rotational velocity is highest from there, even for a rocket at rest, but...I don’t understand the advantage of a LANDING at sea.

Other than it would provide safety advantage for crowded, highly-developed countries like, say, Japan, etc.

Anyone know?


5 posted on 11/25/2014 3:56:24 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

The advantage right now is safety. They fully indend to land it back at the launch facility on land. However, during its testing phase, they are doing this. If there is an accident, the most they can do is damage this barge.


6 posted on 11/25/2014 3:58:31 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Yo-Yo
Nice thing about Space-X is they build failure into the cost of doing business. Musk said a 50% chance of landing on the platform the first time.

But they WILL learn something, either way. Everybody else can't afford a failure.

/johnny

7 posted on 11/25/2014 3:59:26 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Got it. Ok, thanks..!


8 posted on 11/25/2014 3:59:46 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Vince Ferrer

> This would be 180,000 tons to 1.8 million tons.

That’s a whole lot of potential junk up in space. Much better chance for collisions.


9 posted on 11/25/2014 4:18:17 PM PST by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Good point, that will have to be adressed at some point.


10 posted on 11/25/2014 4:20:31 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
"You didn't build that"

-Hussein O.

11 posted on 11/25/2014 4:20:59 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents and supporters are Traitors.)
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To: glorgau
That's a good problem to have.

And I think the Swedes are addressing space junk.

/johnny

12 posted on 11/25/2014 4:23:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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And I think the Swedes are addressing space junk.

So did Wang Chung

13 posted on 11/25/2014 4:29:15 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: gaijin

Yes it will be Riot proof the brothers hate water


14 posted on 11/25/2014 4:30:13 PM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Just WOW!


15 posted on 11/25/2014 4:40:01 PM PST by LYDIAONTARIO
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To: Vince Ferrer

Translation: One of the other reasons that the shuttle was so expensive was that it had very large wings to give the vehicle a thousand miles of cross-range. The Air Force demanded this feature, which would have allowed the shuttle to return to its launch site after a single orbit, though it was never used.

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That was so the Shuttle could snag Soviet satellites out of orbit and bring them back to Earth without being detected.


16 posted on 11/25/2014 4:52:43 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: gaijin

The first stage fires for about three minutes. In that time the rocket is over 20 miles high and has a significant enough horizontal flight velocity that it would require extra fuel to bring it back.

More info here.
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=33439.0

Quoting from one forum entry:
‘As many people know Elon recently said that: “If we do an ocean landing (for testing purposes), the performance hit is actually quite small, maybe in the order of 15 percent. If we do a return to launch site landing, it’s probably double that, it’s more like a 30 percent hit (i.e., 30 percent of payload lost).”’

As an aside I found this.

Falcon 9 User’s Guide
http://decadal.gsfc.nasa.gov/pace-201206mdl/Launch%20Vehicle%20Information/Falcon9UsersGuide_2009.pdf


17 posted on 11/25/2014 4:52:50 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

There was an analysis of a reusable launch system where the cost of developing the reusable launch system was $36 billion. If Spacex is successful they will have developed reusability for about $100 million.

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And that people is the difference between a mammoth corrupt federal government and the private sector.


18 posted on 11/25/2014 4:56:14 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

‘As many people know Elon recently said that: “If we do an ocean landing (for testing purposes), the performance hit is actually quite small, maybe in the order of 15 percent. If we do a return to launch site landing, it’s probably double that, it’s more like a 30 percent hit (i.e., 30 percent of payload lost).”’

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That would be a good enough reason if true. Plus there are safety concerns at this point, and high cost rocket builders who make big political contributions don’t want SpaceX to have an easy time of it.


19 posted on 11/25/2014 5:01:09 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Ah , X marks the spot


20 posted on 11/25/2014 5:32:30 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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