LA City Council Tentatively OKs Mandatory Gun Locks, Digital Ammo Records

CBSLA.com) ^ | November 25, 2014 10:02 AM

[BenLurkin]

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The Los Angeles City Council tentatively approved a pair of new gun-control measures Tuesday, including a proposal to require gun owners to store their firearms in locked containers or use trigger locks to prevent accidental firing of the weapon.

The City Council also voted 11-0 in favor of a proposed ordinance (PDF) that would require licensed ammunition dealers to transmit sales records to the city via an online form, doing away with what one councilman described as the city’s “draconian” method of requesting physical records.

If given final approval by the council on second reading and signed by the mayor, the measure would make it a misdemeanor crime if retailers fail to comply with the reporting requirements.

San Francisco’s gun storage ordinance has withstood a challenge in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, city officials said.

If both proposals are adopted, LA would become the first city in California to have two such measures on the books.

While ammunition dealers are currently required to keep their sale records for at least two years, they are not required to turn them in unless requested by police.

But Councilman Paul Krekorian, who helped author both measures, told KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO that a digital record could help save officers from having to parse through hundreds of pages of purchase records in hard copy when determining whether or not any of the buyers are prohibited from possessing ammunition.

“The LAPD actually has to go physically out to inspect those records and that’s incredibly time consuming, incredibly expensive,” said Krekorian.

Ammunition dealers would be able to fill out a form at LAPDonline.org to submit their ammunition records to the city.

[Steely Tom]

[OKs] == [makes mandatory]

[lostboy61]

Now why was it I left Cali in 1968?

[Hieronymus]

For the LAPD, right?

[Myrddin]

The city can not enact gun control legislation. That is the sole purview of the state of CA. This silliness will be turned over in days.

[2ndDivisionVet]

“If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged.” - 17th-century French clergyman and statesman Cardinal Richelieu.

[Jack Hammer]

The outlaws of Los Angeles are very, very happy.

[BatGuano]

The bastards just don't understand the meaning of “shall not be infringed.” There should be now gun laws or AMMO laws because they would, by definition, infringe on the right to bear arms given to us by the 2nd amendment.

[expat2]

That should quickly stop the blacks and hispanics from killing each other.....

[BatGuano]

Look up the 2nd Amendment. The state cannot make a law that infringes on the right to bear arms. A Constitutional Amendment is necessary to change an existing amendment.

[BatGuano]

Make that “be no gun laws....” Sorry

[lacrew]

Whew! That solves a big problem.

[Myrddin]

I know the the 2nd Amendment says. I was pointing out that the CITY is violating a STATE law. There is lots of crappy law on the books that needs to be overturned. Most of it based on the interstate commerce clause. Bad laws can be made overnight. It takes years to get them off the books via the judicial process. Getting them repealed legislatively is the best approach...if the legislators weren't owned by leftist lobbyists.

[EvilOverlord]

Great!

The city has eliminated the onerous requirement of having a warrant to search search the sales databases and now requires the business to send sales data to them at all times.

Not having to get a warrant before collecting data is so much easier!

[EvilOverlord]

Okay...edit...maybe they only send records on requrest..sorry

[MortMan]

The bastards just don't understand the meaning of “shall not be infringed.” There should be now gun laws or AMMO laws because they would, by definition, infringe on the right to bear arms given guaranteed to us by the 2nd amendment.

A slight edit for clarification, FRiend.

[backwoods-engineer]

Never, never returning to that accursed nest of vipers unless it means my job. And maybe not even then.

[Cololeo]

The Constitution does not give rights. It recognizes and protects natural rights that already exist. Don’t let anyone try to convince you otherwise.

[BatGuano]

I stand corrected, Thank you, FRiend.

[BatGuano]

Yes indeed, you are correct. To continue the Founder’s thoughts, these rights come from our Creator and are included in “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.” That is why they already exist. Thank you.