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‘Dreamer Moms’ fast near White House, hoping Obama will grant them legal status
Washington Post ^ | November 14, 2014 | By Pamela Constable

Posted on 11/15/2014 6:43:39 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“For 10 straight days and nights this month, Rosario Reyes did not eat.”

Why do I not believe this ?


41 posted on 11/15/2014 7:47:58 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: dennisw
Even the Koches are for Amnesty

I've seen the charge before. Is there evidence of such?

42 posted on 11/15/2014 8:07:23 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Then Obama will treat them like crap ,same as he does all American citizens


43 posted on 11/15/2014 8:09:56 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let her go months, years without eating. I think she deserves that.


44 posted on 11/15/2014 8:22:09 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Republican. Because we can´t all be on Welfare.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’ve never understood how fasting or riding your bike buck nekkid through the middle of town would change anything. No one cares if you don’t eat.


45 posted on 11/15/2014 8:31:56 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: hal ogen
I bet this illegal alien invader goes back on her promise. It will me something if we get to see her shrunken dead body in a few weeks. I think not. She’s probably already a DIMocRAT...she’s got the liar part down well.

She may very well be a Democrat "in spirit" but she can't vote until she becomes an American citizen. Citizenship takes years...and they have to take their citizenship test in English. MOST of these illegals can barely speak English. Their writing in English is nonexistent.
Without reading and writing skills in English these illegals will always be on the fringe of our society...and that's hardly better than where they come from.
MOST illegals have NO stake in our wonderful country. They come and go at the whim of the American companies near The Line who hire them. http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/naturalization-test

She probably has her "green card," which means she can live and work here...and pay federal income tax. She may also be living in a state that takes STATE income tax, like California. If she doesn't pay these income tax entities...then she's liable.

The IRS will find her and all the other "green card" folks, no matter where she is. That legal "green card" is their undoing. If they do it the RIGHT and LEGAL way, they HAVE to pay taxes. If they pay taxes then they are "on the grid" and subject to federal and state scrutiny.

If the workers are illegal, they are always hunted and at the mercy of those who DO hire them...as a threat of deportation if they "misbehave." They get no payback of taxes that they paid.

My uncle in Arizona, who worked for Customs, had a Mexican maid and he made her pay all the taxes due. She hated it but needed the work. When she finally retired and returned to Mexico she LIVED OFF of those AMERICAN taxes that she had paid. It was her ONLY source of income since the Mexican promise of tax funding is a lie.

In the end these illegals go back home. The IRS is implacable.

46 posted on 11/15/2014 8:34:02 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: CGASMIA68

We should all get happy meals and eat in front of them...


47 posted on 11/15/2014 8:46:01 AM PST by refermech
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To: Gaffer

Got to start putting some fear into them.


48 posted on 11/15/2014 8:47:42 AM PST by x1stcav (Why does Eleanor Clift always look like her private parts are causing her pain?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I could not careless if they all dropped dead.


49 posted on 11/15/2014 8:51:35 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: cloudmountain

She probably has her “green card,” which means she can live and work here...and pay federal income tax. She may also be living in a state that takes STATE income tax, like California. If she doesn’t pay these income tax entities...then she’s liable.

The IRS will find her and all the other “green card” folks, no matter where she is. That legal “green card” is their undoing. If they do it the RIGHT and LEGAL way, they HAVE to pay taxes. If they pay taxes then they are “on the grid” and subject to federal and state scrutiny

The dirty secret is that they are all undereducated and have so many kids that they don’t pay taxes! They make so little money that with a large number of people in their family they qualify for benefits.


50 posted on 11/15/2014 8:56:13 AM PST by sheana
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To: Gaffer
You haven’t said anything that I didn’t know already, frankly, and I disbelieve your claim it would take ‘tens of thousands’ of border agents to maintain a decent border fence system. The Tunnels of which you speak aren’t in the desert and in unpopulated areas - they are where people, buildings and structures are - they have to hide among the surroundings. It can work and that is why it hasn’t been implemented by Democrats. They throw up all kinds of ‘concern’ feints like environment, animal migration and the like, but the real reason is they just don’t want fences because it’s too hard for their voters to climb.

I don’t disagree with your stance on businesses, however. They should be identified and heavily prosecuted for felonious acts of crime.
YES.

We need the fences, and we need vigorous prosecution of those that harbor and employ them.
Fences. More fences. I don't think so. MORE vigorous prosecution of those who harbor and employ them: 1000 YESES.

Fences haven't worked SO well in the past where they have them. BIGGER and better fences? THAT will probably not do the trick either.

They should call the old guys who built the IRON CURTAIN. THEY have experience with fences. They should ask all those East Germans and East Berliners who escaped just how good those Communist "fences" were. The huge and expansive Commie WALLS couldn't stop the flow for freedom.

More "fences" ... I DON'T think that they could ever do as well as more human eyes. Our border guards are also HONEST and THAT is a formidable deterrent to the illegals. They remind me of the Untouchables who couldn't be bribed by the Mob.

I do think that the REAL pressure to stop illegals HAS to come from the White House. HE has to pressure the President of Mexico, the one who makes the most profit from his people and ultimately DRIVES poorer Mexicans to gringolandia

Unfortunately, I think that is wishful thinking.

51 posted on 11/15/2014 8:57:26 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

All illegals have a Queen for a day story and it makes a good front for the socialists agenda.
NO SALE


52 posted on 11/15/2014 8:58:55 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: sheana
She probably has her “green card,” which means she can live and work here...and pay federal income tax. She may also be living in a state that takes STATE income tax, like California. If she doesn’t pay these income tax entities...then she’s liable. The IRS will find her and all the other “green card” folks, no matter where she is. That legal “green card” is their undoing. If they do it the RIGHT and LEGAL way, they HAVE to pay taxes. If they pay taxes then they are “on the grid” and subject to federal and state scrutiny The dirty secret is that they are all undereducated and have so many kids that they don’t pay taxes! They make so little money that with a large number of people in their family they qualify for benefits.

Lol. Getting benefits isn't why they are here. They are all temporary and don't want to be citizens. They just want gringo money...and to go back home with their gringo money. They can live in Mexico NINE months for what they make here in THREE months.

You DO state that they are "all undereducated" and that means that they can't EVER get a decent job--which REQUIRES reading and writing...IN ENGLISH...and therefore will never be on the USA grid. AND SO, they will never get the benefits that you and I get.

You gainsay your own argument.

53 posted on 11/15/2014 9:04:20 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: sheana
"That legal “green card” is their undoing. If they do it the RIGHT and LEGAL way, they HAVE to pay taxes. If they pay taxes then they are “on the grid” and subject to federal and state scrutiny'

I have no doubt the majority of those demanding legal status do not realize some of the (possible) less desirable consequences. However, for the most part them being on the grid will only gain them legal access to more free social services.

54 posted on 11/15/2014 9:10:43 AM PST by moehoward
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To: x1stcav
"Got to start putting some fear into them."

It worked like a charm in AZ with sb1070. Simple solution is to adopt the provisions that SCOTUS let stand on a federal level. You wouldn't even need to build a fence.

55 posted on 11/15/2014 9:14:22 AM PST by moehoward
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To: cloudmountain

No I did not say that. I said they will qualify for benefits because of the number of people in their families and the pay they receive....ON THE GRID. The minute they are made legal in any way they will receive benefits.

Getting benefits isn’t why they are here

Then why are they all collecting on their American born children?


56 posted on 11/15/2014 9:14:42 AM PST by sheana
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To: moehoward

Yes and that is what I was saying before the other poster tried to turn it around.
They are already collecting on their American born children. Making the rest legal will just mean larger pay outs of benefits.


57 posted on 11/15/2014 9:16:36 AM PST by sheana
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To: sheana

They are parasites. Deport them all after taking their genetic markers and seizing all assets. Never allow illegal alien invaders to become Citizens...never.


58 posted on 11/15/2014 9:56:30 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Koch brothers have some PACs that make pro-Amnesty donations. I see it in a google search


59 posted on 11/15/2014 10:45:23 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: moehoward

Yes, but I’m talking about putting fear into bureaucrats, politicians, elites, and other member of the ruling class.


60 posted on 11/15/2014 11:30:28 AM PST by x1stcav (Why does Eleanor Clift always look like her private parts are causing her acute pain?)
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