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Government slashes 2015 Obamacare sign-up forecast by 30%
cnbc.com ^ | November 10, 2014 | Dan Mangan

Posted on 11/10/2014 10:03:26 AM PST by John W

So the number "13" apparently is bad luck for Obamacare, too.

Federal officials on Monday sought to lower expectations for upcoming enrollment in Obamacare, announcing that they now believe that only between 9 million and 9.9 million people will be enrolled in Affordable Care Act health insurance plans by the end of 2015.

That is well below the 13 million people that the Congressional Budget Office has projected for Obamacare enrollment by the end of 2015. Open enrollment for 2015 plans resumes Saturday.

The new projection, more than 30 percent reduced from the CBO estimate, comes from the Health and Human Services Department, which oversees the Obamacare health reform program.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; obama; obamacare; obamacareenrollment; obamacarepenalty
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1 posted on 11/10/2014 10:03:26 AM PST by John W
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To: John W

It would be fun to know how many people who purchased Obamacare but haven’t stayed current with their payments.


2 posted on 11/10/2014 10:09:31 AM PST by grania
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To: John W

Another government sponsored disaster that will cost countless people their lives.


3 posted on 11/10/2014 10:09:38 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: John W

“lower expectations” is probably the right bumper sticker for the whole Grand Kenyan shtick. My own expectations couldn’t be any lower for anything doofus boy has anything to do with. But you notice they had no idea this would be the case until the election was over? It is just disgusting that gummint agencies are so hide bound and secretive——the American people just can’t be trusted with accurate info when it might be helpful?


4 posted on 11/10/2014 10:14:23 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: grania

Last I heard, “attrition” was running about 30%.


5 posted on 11/10/2014 10:15:28 AM PST by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: John W
More bad news for Herr Obama and his geriatric tower of power old Rats, who run America, that was held back until after the elections.


6 posted on 11/10/2014 10:16:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white.)
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To: Qiviut

Why would you make the payments? You can just buy it whenever you feel sick and they are not allowed to exclude you for “pre-existing conditions”.


7 posted on 11/10/2014 10:17:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: John W
Just wait until January 2015, when employer-sponsored plans become "unqualified Obamacare plans" and will be cancelled. When there's nowhere else to go, people will go to the "exchange."

Since I have seen first-hand that these exchanges don't work, and will not work for 2015... Another million uninsured.

8 posted on 11/10/2014 10:25:06 AM PST by erikm88
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To: John W

For really good information on the truth about Obamacare, I highly recommend this blog (and I have no affiliation to it other than reading it to find the ‘truth’ that the media/HHS wiil not tell us):

http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/

Health Care Policy and Marketplace Review

A Health Care Reform Blog––Bob Laszewski’s review of the latest developments in federal health policy, health care reform, and marketplace activities in the health care financing business.


9 posted on 11/10/2014 10:26:22 AM PST by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: grania

..or who had insurance but signed up for CommieCare?

I doubt if NEW insureds reached 1 million.


10 posted on 11/10/2014 10:29:27 AM PST by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: John W

repeal the individual mandate. repeal the employer mandate. repeal ipab. repeal minimum coverage requirments. what you’ve got left is a website where you can buy insurance from insurance companies.

I don’t have too huge a problem with that. I would never use it, mind you, but the web site would fizzle out on it’s own after we killed the rest.


11 posted on 11/10/2014 10:31:23 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: John W

Wait a minute. Weren’t there 40 or 50 million uninsured occupants in the USA in 2010 that we had to completely insure?


12 posted on 11/10/2014 10:32:10 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: John W

And 7 of the 9 million will be those getting free Medicaid!


13 posted on 11/10/2014 10:33:06 AM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

A couple of things .... I believe you can only buy it during open enrollment or when you have a qualifying event ... getting sick with no insurance is not one of them.

The BIG thing I see .... (for example) a relative (28, in good health, not eligible for subsidies) is finding that insurance will cost her between $500-600/month. Using the lower figure, that is $6,000 per year for an insurance card BECAUSE she has a deductible she has to meet of about the same ($5-6,000). She is struggling to make ends meet (building a business), doesn’t have cable or other niceties, living as cheap as she can. The insurance premiums just kill her ability to pay rent, buy food, gas, etc. The $6,000 premium cost would buy her a LOT of medical care if she needed it (excluding catastrophic). Even if she had an insurance card, she cannot pay the additional thousands of her deductible before the insurance pays a dime. THIS is why people are not enrolling or dropping after a couple of months paying outrageous premiums and getting nothing for it. Doctors do not want to take Obamacare because THEY are on the hook for the $5-6K that the patient is responsible for (and most cannot pay) prior to insurance paying.

Another example - my brother, a small business owner with 2 kids still on his insurance, will have to pay almost 50% of his gross income to have insurance. It’s ridiculous.

I have recommended that they check out the following: http://selfpaypatient.com/selfpayhealthcaremarket/

In particular, look down the page to the Health Care Sharing Organizations .... sharing organizations are voluntary associations of people who agree to share medical bills between them, similar to insurance. They are typically less expensive than conventional health insurance, and for some ministries members are exempt from paying the Obamacare tax for being uninsured.


14 posted on 11/10/2014 10:35:44 AM PST by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: headstamp 2

“Another government sponsored disaster that will cost countless people their lives.”

And a bottomless money pit, sucking dollars from the economy and our pockets. (Well, that’s pretty much the same thing!)


15 posted on 11/10/2014 10:55:13 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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Does anyone definitively know what would happen to me if I flat out REFUSED to be insured, either via my employer or signing up for Bammy Care?

What’s the over/under for them to FIND me, if I did so? Is it tied into the IRS, via my tax returns?

How about if I just stop filing them, as well? *SNORT*


16 posted on 11/10/2014 10:56:58 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Qiviut

Bump for link, later. Thanks!


17 posted on 11/10/2014 10:57:28 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: grania

They probably thought there’s wasn’t anything to pay for.


18 posted on 11/10/2014 11:04:08 AM PST by mothball
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To: John W

LOL, they were going to sign up the 45 million people who were uninsured. Remember? That was the whole reason for this bunk

So for less than 1/4th of the projected people actually signing up, the whole health care insurance system has been shaken to it’s foundation.

Thank God for Liberals! /s /s /s /s /s


19 posted on 11/10/2014 11:05:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The mid-term elections were perfect for him. Now Obama can really lead from behind.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You’d have to pay a fine to the IRS but for many people that’s far less steep than Obamacare premiums - which aren’t affordable.

I’m covered by my state Medicaid plan so I don’t have to worry about having to choose between my health, rent and the dog food.

Obamacare has aggravated rather than solved the uninsured crisis.


20 posted on 11/10/2014 11:07:57 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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