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Obamacare Architect: Lack of Transparency Was Key ..‘Stupidity Of Voter’ Would Have Killed Obamacare
The Daily Caller ^ | November 9, 2014 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 11/10/2014 1:55:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber said that lack of transparency was a major part of getting Obamacare passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have killed the law if more people knew what was in it.

Gruber, the MIT professor who served as a technical consultant to the Obama administration during Obamacare’s design, also made clear during a panel quietly captured on video that the individual mandate, which was only upheld by the Supreme Court because it was a tax, was not actually a tax.

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed… Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass… Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; democraticparty; gruber; jonathangruber; liberals; nancypelosi; obamacare
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1 posted on 11/10/2014 1:55:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I despise these people more than imaginable from obama on down.


2 posted on 11/10/2014 1:58:08 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

ping


3 posted on 11/10/2014 1:59:29 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is an interesting piece. He is correct....there was one single open window to writing this, and getting it passed. The fact that it is 2,000 pages....means that no one really reads it prior to passing it. A perfect storm.


4 posted on 11/10/2014 2:02:11 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bttt


5 posted on 11/10/2014 2:03:16 AM PST by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be defeated.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
well...anyone relying on this thing to tell the truth is the first indicator of failure...


6 posted on 11/10/2014 2:03:48 AM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Have to pass it to see what’s in it. Nancy p on the hc bill ramrod passage.


7 posted on 11/10/2014 2:05:59 AM PST by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not ju st selectively for Democrats.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

jonathan gruber burn in hell


8 posted on 11/10/2014 2:11:43 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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that was really really critical for the thing to pass.

Lack of transparency - and bribes.

9 posted on 11/10/2014 2:12:52 AM PST by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bookmark


10 posted on 11/10/2014 2:15:59 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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"And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass… Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.

"By any means necessary" - the communist Saul Alinsky

11 posted on 11/10/2014 2:16:07 AM PST by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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David Horowitz, June 2000: “...........The first truth about leftist missionaries, about believing progressives, is that they are liars. But they are not liars in the ordinary way, which is to say by choice. They are liars by necessity—often without even realizing that they are. Because they also lie to themselves. It is the political lie that gives their cause its life.

Why, for example, if you were one of them, would you tell the truth? If you were serious about your role in humanity’s vanguard, if you had the knowledge (which others did not), that you were certain would lead them to a better world, why would you tell them a truth that they could not “understand” and that would hold them back?

If others could understand your truth, you would not think of yourself as a “vanguard.” You would no longer inhabit the morally charmed world of an elite, whose members alone can see the light and whose mission is to lead the unenlightened towards it. If everybody could see the promised horizon and knew the path to reach it, the future would already have happened and there would be no need for the vanguard of the saints.

That is both the ethical core and psychological heart of what it means to be a part of the left. That is where the gratification comes from. To see yourself as a social redeemer. To feel anointed. In other words: To be progressive is itself the most satisfying narcissism.

That is why it is of little concern to them that their socialist schemes have run aground, burying millions of human beings in their wake. That is why they don’t care that their panaceas have caused more human suffering than all the injustices they have ever challenged. That is why they never learn from their “mistakes.” That is why the continuance of Them is more important than any truth...........”

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=24376


12 posted on 11/10/2014 2:16:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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13 posted on 11/10/2014 2:17:28 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

BM


14 posted on 11/10/2014 2:18:25 AM PST by LurkingSince1943 (Former War Criminal)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But if you could go inside these peoples’ heads you’d see that they want nothing to do with Obomacare for themselves or their families. They just want to stick the rest of us with it.

That alone should be enough to overturn this bastard of a law.


15 posted on 11/10/2014 2:22:04 AM PST by Bullish (A 5 year old could run the country better than Obama.)
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"......call it the stupidity of the American voter, but basically hiding the details was really really critical for the thing to pass......I’d rather have this law than not”....

"I'd" rather have the law than not.....he says, exposing his desperate narcissism.

Well boo-frickin'-hoo for "you."

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The prog rule is---as long as it makes the self-haters "feel good about themselves" .....Americans be damned.

16 posted on 11/10/2014 2:30:43 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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Yeah, I get it....the progs are so much smarter than the rest of us.

Odd, isn't it, that the "smart set" didn't have the brains to stave off annihiliation last Tuesday.

ROTFLMCO.

17 posted on 11/10/2014 2:40:15 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Beeyooteefull!

They’re narcissists in FACT.

Narcissists can exist on a “spectrum”, from annoying to downright sociopathic.

Wherever they are on the spectrum, they ALWAYS cause damage.


18 posted on 11/10/2014 2:51:49 AM PST by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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Excellent piece: Empty Integrity
19 posted on 11/10/2014 2:52:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Vince Ferrer

Your graphic point is well taken, but what do Americans do when many of the party they voted in to office actually support the government take over of health care?


20 posted on 11/10/2014 2:54:12 AM PST by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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