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Microcosm of S.F. housing plight: 6,800 applications for 18 units
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | November 8, 2014 | C.W. Nevius

Posted on 11/08/2014 11:25:16 AM PST by artichokegrower

When real estate developer Forest City began construction on a new apartment complex at 2175 Market St., it announced that it would build more affordable units than required by the city — 20 percent instead of 12.

The response was overwhelming. Forest City put a booth in the lobby of The Chronicle building — chosen because it is centrally located, near public transit and well-recognized — and got more than 6,800 applications.

For 18 apartments

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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Open borders have consequences. What do think the demand for housing will be after Obama's amnesty?
1 posted on 11/08/2014 11:25:16 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

6,800 applications for 18 housing units sounds like something from the former Soviet Union.


2 posted on 11/08/2014 11:29:35 AM PST by Sasparilla
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To: artichokegrower

It is unbelievable.

They scream for more and more immigrants....and then wonder why an apartment in SF goes for 3 grand a month.

Wait, aren’t we entitled to those apartments cuz we’re kool?


3 posted on 11/08/2014 11:31:43 AM PST by Regulator
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It is unbelievable. They scream for more and more immigrants....and then wonder why an apartment in SF goes for 3 grand a month. Wait, aren’t we entitled to those apartments cuz we’re kool?

I expect building restrictions are a big factor. Liberal areas tend to have significant barriers to both knocking down old construction and putting up new units.

4 posted on 11/08/2014 11:34:08 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: artichokegrower

“Open borders have consequences. What do think the demand for housing will be after Obama’s amnesty? “

Good luck with that in San Francisco. Even the “low-income housing” is affordable by the illegals. Thanks to Google, Facebook, et.al, The SF housing market is off the charts expensive. You know, you gotta cater to all those Asians here on H-1B visas satisfied with a space with a view of the Bay! I was in SF a week or so ago to pick up a relative. I drove through an area near the Produce Market where I worked 30 years ago (when it was a $hitthole and dead bodies in the street were not uncommon). Now it’s completely built up with up-scale housing and the change has driven all the Blacks out of the area.


5 posted on 11/08/2014 11:34:10 AM PST by vette6387
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Well, at least they have affordable health care when they catch a pneumonia from living on the streets.


6 posted on 11/08/2014 11:34:49 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Zhang Fei

I read something recently on that very subject. The article I read tied in liberalism with housing costs, and found a big overlap around the country between high housing costs and Democrat/liberal politics in those areas.

Liberals say they have such compassion for the poor, yet their policies in places where they are in power help make housing expensive in such places. Go figure.


7 posted on 11/08/2014 11:37:14 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: artichokegrower

There is an obvious solution for SF: while keeping in mind that they are prone to earthquakes, to build underground.

If done intelligently, the underground and the buildings atop it can be more stable than the existing land. They can also be far more economical, cleaner, use less water and power, and even be designed to feel like they have open space.

Of course it would be expensive, but the twist is in designing it to last. Perhaps a hundred years before it needs a major refit.


8 posted on 11/08/2014 11:37:26 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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We need an immediate program to subsidize affordable housing in the ‘City’.

After all, we don’t want these ideologically-diseased people to leave there and pollute other area.

San Francisco for LGBT’s and other liberal scum.


9 posted on 11/08/2014 11:39:51 AM PST by x1stcav (I was an Infantry Officer back in the 60's. I have no fear.)
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To: vette6387

The problem is that everybody wants to be on the peninsula in SF proper. I’ve always loved the physical place itself, stunning geography and grand architecture, such a shame that it turned into what it did. If it weren’t for that and draconian environmental laws, the opposite side of the Golden Gate could be developed with high rises to alleviate the demand with a knockout view of the city, water taxis and ferries, even hovercraft a la the former English Channel ferry service, could be put into place. Not going to happen in Sausalito or Marin County, though. Permanent houseboats with municipal water and sewer in Sausalito are a half million and up, and while nice they’re not much on square footage.


10 posted on 11/08/2014 11:44:37 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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The new AG will be the Zoning Czar, to push the proposed HUD rules --- resulting in nationalization of zoning boards and zoning laws/ordinances.

[04/16/2014] Snob Zone contender: Oyster Bay, NYSnob zones

... if the effect of the residency preference is to shut out minorities, then the feds say it’s illegal. But that interpretation may be put to the test in the Justice Department’s discrimination lawsuit against the Long Island community of Oyster Bay (pop. 300,000). The complaint takes issue with Oyster Bay’s use of residency preferences for two affordable housing programs. One, the Next Generation program, was aimed at young people with incomes between 80 and 120 percent of the median town income. The other, Golden Age, was intended to provide senior citizens with affordable living close to their families. Residents were given preference for units in both programs.

So far, none of the buyers in the Next Generation condominium program are black. And only “a handful” of residents at the senior housing complex are black. The reason, the feds say, is because Oyster Bay is 85 percent white. Therefore, a residency preference effectively shuts out minorities, which is a violation of the Fair Housing Act.

From Newsday

“Housing programs designed to help young families and senior citizens purchase homes should be available to people of all races, including African-Americans,” Eastern District U.S. Attorney Loretta Lynch said in a statement Thursday. “To the extent residency preferences prevent families and senior citizens from purchasing homes because of race, ethnicity or color, the preferences violate federal law and cannot be tolerated.”

[07/22/2013] HUD's New 'Fair Housing' Rule Establishes Diversity Data for Every Neighborhood in U.S.

“This proposed rule represents a 21st century approach to fair housing, a step forward to ensuring that every American is able to choose to live in a community they feel proud of – where they have a fair shot at reaching their full potential in life,” said HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan.

“For the first time ever," Donovan added, "HUD will provide data for every neighborhood in the country, detailing the access African American, Latino, Asian, and other communities have to local assets, including schools, jobs, transportation, and other important neighborhood resources that can play a role in helping people move into the middle class."

Social engineering

According to HUD, long-term solutions include "helping people gain access to different neighborhoods and channeling investments into under-served areas."

The greedy landlords for cheap illegals' labor ... will be thrilled ... to have the new AG pushing for more and more compact, dense, so-called "sustainable" living cubicles.

11 posted on 11/08/2014 11:49:14 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Sasparilla

That’s almost 400 applicants for each available apartment. These people have far less than a 1% chance of winning a spot there.

Good luck. They may have to keep living in Oakland.....


12 posted on 11/08/2014 11:55:49 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Most of those seeking housing in Frisco are not living in Oakland, they are from out of state.


13 posted on 11/08/2014 11:58:32 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Sasparilla

Apartment lottery. The rent is ridiculously low. Make the same 18 units and price them at the going rate, see how many applicants turn up.


14 posted on 11/08/2014 12:01:27 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: editor-surveyor

oh, I didn’t know big numbers of out of staters were moving to the Bay Area.

I knew a big number of homosexuals have moved to SF from elsewhere. But even with a big homosexual community, that’s just a small fraction of the over 6 million people living in the Bay Area.

I understand too, that based on supply and demand, housing prices will be higher in San Francisco itself, if that is where so many people prefer to live within the Bay Area.


15 posted on 11/08/2014 12:01:27 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Zhang Fei

Think rent control.


16 posted on 11/08/2014 12:06:19 PM PST by fhayek
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To: artichokegrower

It is always fun to watch liberals try to create “affordable” housing in their insanely high cost of living coastal cities.

Then they pass more restrictive zoning ordinances and wonder why housing is unaffordable.


17 posted on 11/08/2014 12:09:48 PM PST by cgbg (HLM--"Democracy is the theory that people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Actually, Oakland is a preferred location for white liberals. The place is loaded with them.

Part of the reason is the weather, which is vastly better than Frisco.

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18 posted on 11/08/2014 12:13:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: fhayek

Thomas Sowell on the effects of rent control. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell082100.asp


19 posted on 11/08/2014 12:29:50 PM PST by SKI NOW
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To: artichokegrower

Normal people can’t afford to live in this country. The “poor” can. Where is the justice in that?


20 posted on 11/08/2014 12:34:58 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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