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Give Back The Senate
billwhittle.com ^ | 11-8-14 | Bill Whittle

Posted on 11/08/2014 3:44:04 AM PST by Jerrybob

Excellent and brilliant.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: statesrights

1 posted on 11/08/2014 3:44:04 AM PST by Jerrybob
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To: Jerrybob

https://www.billwhittle.com/firewall/give-back-senate


2 posted on 11/08/2014 3:44:34 AM PST by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: Jerrybob

“Only the States are powerful enough to stop this federal government from enforcing that progressive, utopian idea: a country where anything that is not forbidden is mandatory.”


3 posted on 11/08/2014 3:54:04 AM PST by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: Jerrybob

Yes he nails it


4 posted on 11/08/2014 4:03:26 AM PST by WHBates
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To: Jerrybob
“Only the States are powerful enough to stop Obama's federal government from enforcing that progressive, utopian idea: a country where anything that is not forbidden is mandatory.”

Beautiful---and remember this, Americans--as we clean up the mountains of detritus left by these Chicago criminals----only conservatives were savvy enough to know what we were getting when these poseurs squatted in our WH.

5 posted on 11/08/2014 4:04:26 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Jerrybob
You're right. I normally avoid blog sites, but Whittle is legit.

He produced an informative, entertaining five minute vid on repeal of the 17th amendment.

The 18th was repealed, so can the 17th and Obamacare.

Return the senate to its rightful owners, the states.

6 posted on 11/08/2014 4:11:58 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jerrybob
it would be nice . . .

Imagine, living under the Constitution as it is supposed to be and not as it has been bastardized by the politicians.

Oh, the Joy!
7 posted on 11/08/2014 4:43:37 AM PST by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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To: Jacquerie

Bill Whittle. One of the best and brightest conservative minds around today, in my opinion; also very quiet and understated. I really like that.


8 posted on 11/08/2014 4:45:06 AM PST by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: Jerrybob

See my tag.


9 posted on 11/08/2014 4:50:30 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Jacquerie

Has anyone reached out to the RGA, ALEC or even the NCSL?


10 posted on 11/08/2014 4:55:05 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
ALEC is the only one I've looked at in months. IIRC its version of federalism is to plead for more money from DC.

Yesterday I checked out the Assembly of States, and googled its spark, David Long of the Indiana senate. The planned third meeting for next month is apparently canceled.

About five weeks ago Mark Levin mentioned and named a team he gathered for the purpose of getting the movement going again. Randy Barnett, whom I deeply respect, and I think Michael Farris from Patrick Henry College are among them. I don't recall anything from Levin since.

Its disappointing, but history doesn't travel in a straight line, so I am hopeful.

11 posted on 11/08/2014 5:40:06 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jerrybob

It is the same reason the war between the states was fought, states rights.

The whittling away at the powers reserved by the states is the biggest danger we face.

He is right- a state is sovereign and is allowed to decide virtually everything. If it wants to educate in a certain way or treat abortions one way, or increase taxes, it is allowed to.

People who do not want this are free to move to anot her state, e.g. onerous taxes in Massachusetts can be avoided by moving to Texas.

There is no relief if the feds dictate. That is the power libs want and need to survive.


12 posted on 11/08/2014 5:41:17 AM PST by bestintxas (Every time a RINO is defeated a Founding Father gets his wings.)
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To: Jerrybob

Don’t stop with just repealing the 17th amendment, we need to start dividing electoral votes for POTUS by congressional district. No more winner take all!

Michigan now has the veto proof Republican majority in both houses of the state legislature to do exactly that.

We need to pressure them to do it!


13 posted on 11/08/2014 5:41:42 AM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Jerrybob
Repealing the 17th should be the Conservative Crusade. Its ratification is what set the nation on the road to totalitarian centralism. Without it some of the states, like California and Maryland, might still be despotic, perhaps worse than they are anyway, but that would just be in those states. It wouldn't blanket the nation.

Kill the 17th, then start the paring down, starting with killing or modifying Civil Service so that the bureaucracy is not set in concrete.

Then start killing the Departments-EPA, DOE, DOE, etc. back to the original 4.

14 posted on 11/08/2014 5:50:07 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Jacquerie

ALEC doesn’t have to agree with you completely, but my understanding is they are pretty conservative. Remember that for this to succeed you need to connect with the natural self-interest of a variety of disparate groups. It’s the way of the Founders and it’s the only way.


15 posted on 11/08/2014 7:29:40 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I honestly don’t believe the vast majority of state legislators are aware of their vast power under Article V.

When I got with my state assemblyman last year for an hour, it was clear from his questions that at best, he was quite unfamiliar with it.


16 posted on 11/08/2014 9:53:30 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jacquerie

I’d start by sending them and their chief of staffs that Bill Whittle video. Do you have any position papers on this you could send?

This should be a FReeper project. Talking to local reps and senators and getting them to at least know about it. How about letters to the editor?


17 posted on 11/08/2014 1:34:39 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Hmmm. Yes, the Whittle video is a terrific intro.

As for position papers, they consist entirely of vanity posts to FR over the last year and a half.

I agree this could/should be a Freeper Project. Do you have any specifics in mind?

Letter to my FL Legislator. I think it still reads pretty well.

18 posted on 11/08/2014 3:21:14 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jerrybob

NOTHING in this Amendment prevents the STATE LEGISLATURES from Electing Senators. It just says “elected by the people thereof” well didn’t the People Thereof Elect the Legislators?? And cannot the People Thereof entrust this job to the Legislators??

What would Washington do if a State Legislature just sent 2 Senators they ELECTED at the behest of “the people thereof”?

Since we don’t have any Governors or State Legislatures with the balls to stand up and just Send 2 Senators that were duly elected by the Legislators, we will never find out.

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the state legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any state in the Senate, the executive authority of such state shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, that the legislature of any state may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution


19 posted on 11/13/2014 2:00:47 PM PST by eyeamok
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