The GOP doesn’t have a veto-proof majority, but I think with some maneuvering, they might be able to get at least parts of it through with a 51% majority (a tactic set up, IIRC, but Harry Reid!).
That’s all the Rs need to do.
Keep running various repeal bills and let him and the RATs continue to screw the American people. Eventually there will be no democRAT party.
Yes and thanks, Harry Reid. Remember the old saying, "Turn-about is fair play". It was OK when YOU did it, so It's OK when WE do it!
Here's how. Vote to drop the mandate. That would be veto-proof because the troops aren't going to line up with Obama anymore, and risk losing over an issue that's only going to get more unpopular.
If that doesn't work, defund the insurance subsidies. The insurance companies would take care of it from there.
They need to pass a series of bills that are popular with 2/3 of the country - border fence, irs reform, etc,
let Obama veto every one, and go on the offensive.
Obamacare is NOT popularly supported.
Most likely scenario is Republicans will pass a full repeal, and Obama will veto it...
Now the question is this, can you get 2/3 to override? Common calculus is not likely... You’d need most likely 13 Dems to switch in the Senate, and about 45 or so depending on final makeup of 2015 congress dems in the house to switch. Is this possible? I doubt it for 2 reasons.
1) The house may be possible, but not likely, every congressman has already faced election a few times since the initial ObamaCare vote, and survived the purge that was Nov 4 as well. So its doubtful many of them that voted for the bill will switch now, they have already faced voters a few times over it, so no fear of being cast out because of it... but who knows, maybe they got the fear of god put in them... The senate is almost certainly not going to see 13 votes switch, Harry Reid has ruled those chickens like the little bitches they are for 6 years, hard to believe they are going to finally stand up to him and vote against him, and 2) I really doubt Republican Leadership are willing to truly commit to honestly try to make it happen... They will do the token repeal it, but if they had to put up a full court all in fight to try to override a veto, I just don’t think they’ll do it, unless they know going in they have far far more votes for override committed before they even start...and as I said before I don’t see that happening.
Republicans now control completely the legislative agenda, and oversight. They should just starve obamacare on the vine, not one penny to anything related to it.. those billions in subsidies to keep the pools stable... GONE. Enforcement, gone, etc etc... Again, I don’t see the R’s having the will or the stones to do it.
So most likely scenario will be piecemeal legislation to make fringe changes at best.
No Dem believes he can profit from Obama. Repealing Obamacare may just be the right move of the Dems.
No Dem believes he can profit from Obama. Repealing Obamacare may just be the right move
“The GOP doesn’t have a veto-proof majority, . . .”
1) The dirty secret is the big multinational corporations and Wall Street Banks like O’care. They want single payer government paid healthcare so they can get out of the healthcare business. Therefore the GOPe does not want to repeal O’care.
2) McConnell and Boehner will schedule votes to repeal O’care early in 2015. Obama will veto the legislation. McConnell and Boehner will tell the base, “we tried”, now let’s move on.
3) If the GOP actually put a real plan to replace O’care with a free market health care system, with some provision for dealing with pre-existing conditions, the debate and vote could be interesting. Enough Democrats might be persuaded to vote for an alternative to override Obama’s veto, particularly early in 2015 when the large premium hikes being announced during this year’s enrollment period are fresh in the minds of angry constituents.
I doubt the GOP will provide a viable alternative. The GOPe will allow Obama’s veto to stand and wait for the next Democrat president to propose single payer.
Never underestimate the power of greed and incumbency.
There are enough democrat fascists who want to stay in office in spite of Caliph Obama that there may be a way to get enough votes to over ride a veto. The real question is whether or not a vote to override such a veto would come up if such a bill is passed then vetoed.
Unless someone forces the issue and brings a vote to override to the floor you can't really know whether or not it can be overridden. It's easy for a democrat to say, "I won't vote to override", when asked but much more difficult for that same democrat to stand up and vote against an override on a roll-call vote.
JMHo
Too bad we’re not just a little closer to the 2/3 we need. Next week the premium increases for ObamaCare policies will be released. Obama forced the insurers to keep a lid on them for a reason; I’m hearing rumors of double-digit increases in almost every state.
If people were pi$$ed off on Tuesday, just wait until this shoe drops next week. I could see getting five or six Dem senators to join an override. But thirteen is way beyond reach. To bad, though.
That was for presidential appointments only. The Republicans could repeal Obamacare through the reconciliation process by attaching it to a budget bill but they can't push through any replacement by the same method. That would face a filibuster, which the GOP can't override.