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Republicans First Had to Wrestle With Their Own Poor Discipline (sob)
NYT ^ | November 5, 2014 | By JEREMY W. PETERS and CARL HULSE

Posted on 11/05/2014 2:57:11 AM PST by 1rudeboy

WASHINGTON — It was late spring, and Republican leaders knew that if they wanted to win the Senate, they needed to crush the enemy: not Democrats, but the rebels within their own party.

And Chris McDaniel, a Senate candidate from Mississippi who had a history of making sexist and racially insensitive remarks, was a problem.

Candidates like Scott Brown, running for the Senate in New Hampshire, called the National Republican Senatorial Committee to complain that if Mr. McDaniel was not stopped, he could drag the whole party down. Strategists inside the committee’s headquarters on Capitol Hill were envisioning nightmares of Democrats caricaturing all their candidates as “mini-McDaniels.”

The committee’s executive director, Rob Collins, dragged complacent donors into the effort, playing recordings for them of some of Mr. McDaniel’s most incendiary remarks and persuading them to underwrite a massive get-out-the-vote effort to defeat him.

In June, the party establishment — just barely — vanquished Mr. McDaniel, reaching a turning point in their dogged campaign to purge the party of extremists and regain power in the Senate.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 11/05/2014 2:57:11 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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please just legalize drugs so the liberatardians will just go back into their holes and the adults can run things.. I’m tired of close elections being decided by a bunch of halfwits.


2 posted on 11/05/2014 3:04:26 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Rove cowboyed up and defeated those durn Tea Party-types in every Senate race in which they appeared in 2014. He'll be back in 2015, telling us how great Jeb Bush is.

3 posted on 11/05/2014 3:06:45 AM PST by Bettyprob
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To: 1rudeboy
And Chris McDaniel, a Senate candidate from Mississippi who had a history of making sexist and racially insensitive remarks, was a problem.

Candidates like Scott Brown, running for the Senate in New Hampshire, called the National Republican Senatorial Committee to complain that if Mr. McDaniel was not stopped, he could drag the whole party down.


Oh, really? I did not know that Scott Brown did that. Now, I'm glad the S.O.B. lost last night.
4 posted on 11/05/2014 3:07:13 AM PST by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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I think he had a point.

The GOP establishment stayed focused and on message.

The Tea Party winds up nominating losers who give away seats for free to the Democrats.

That is a problem. McDaniel would have lost in Misssissippi.


5 posted on 11/05/2014 3:31:26 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Norm Lenhart

And now that it’s all over, the GOP-E backroom boys are stepping out of the shadows to gloat.


6 posted on 11/05/2014 3:38:39 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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The establishment can say no one was talking about rape or the size of black male sex organs.

From that point of view, not saying stupid things is a win in their column. Professional politicians know how to campaign.


7 posted on 11/05/2014 3:41:15 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
What planet are you from? The primary fight against McDaniel was disgusting, and it will not be forgotten by constitutional conservatives.

The message of the election is that everyone is "mad as hell" and wants a dramatic pushback against Obama's agenda. Besides that, look at the new US Senators. The ones that were vetted by the Senate Conservative fund won some seats with impressive candidates. Ted Cruz and his small band of patriots are going to have some more friends. The 'pubs don't have anywhere near a majority without them.

8 posted on 11/05/2014 3:45:08 AM PST by grania
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To: goldstategop

BS I live here


9 posted on 11/05/2014 3:45:29 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Thad is a thud for me)
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To: grania

I’m not defending RINOs.

I’m simply pointing out a candidate with a big mouth will lose.

This isn’t rocket science.


10 posted on 11/05/2014 3:46:20 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Ever hear of Joe Biden, Chuck Shumer, Patty Murrey? There are a whole lot of big mouth democrats that keep getting elected year after year. So much for rocket science.


11 posted on 11/05/2014 4:08:39 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: goldstategop

There’s something to be said for that. The Tea Party wing of the GOP needs to find better candidates. Running someone with a lot of baggage doesn’t do anyone any good.


12 posted on 11/05/2014 4:12:32 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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Ever hear of Joe Biden, Chuck Shumer, Patty Murrey?

Yeah, and they all ran in deep-blue states. Others such as Todd Akin, Ken Buck, Sharron Angle and Richard Mourdock happened to have been running in more purple states.

Some, like Joe Miller, ran their mouths so much (Berlin Wall) that they lost in very red states in GOP years.

13 posted on 11/05/2014 4:15:35 AM PST by Bettyprob
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What you've demonstrated there is that there are two different sets of standards for Democratic candidates. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that there are no standards for Democratic candidates. The sad truth is that the Democrat Party is the party of misfits and losers, so normal people don't take them seriously.

All the more reason to nominate strong, competent Republican candidates who you wouldn't mind having over for Thanksgiving dinner.

14 posted on 11/05/2014 4:19:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: 1rudeboy

The first thing I did this morning was check the election results. My House district, one huge motha covering darn near 1/4 of Arizona stayed blue thanks to the Apache and Navajo nations vote. But other than that it looks like the Republicans had a good night AND the GOPe had a great night. So I am pretty conflicted, Should I be happy or unhappy? Only time will tell, but I do suspect We the People will in the long run be the losers.


15 posted on 11/05/2014 4:20:00 AM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: goldstategop

Mc Daniel won the Republican primary run-off, discounting illegal democrat cross overs. Should have been the nominee; would have won as a conservative.


16 posted on 11/05/2014 4:25:15 AM PST by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: goldstategop

Both things can be true. Nominating moderates in states that can elect true blue conservatives is bad. But nominating idiots and people who violate the MSM’s red lines for PC for no good reason is worse. It’s not a choice we have to make — there are a thousand Ted Cruz types out there, more than enough for every seat in existence.


17 posted on 11/05/2014 4:26:39 AM PST by only1percent
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To: 1rudeboy
In June, the party establishment — just barely — vanquished Mr. McDaniel, reaching a turning point in their dogged campaign to purge the party of conservatives and regain the power to behave like Democrats in the Senate.

Fixed it for them...
18 posted on 11/05/2014 4:31:17 AM PST by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: Alberta's Child
There’s something to be said for that. The Tea Party wing of the GOP needs to find better candidates. Running someone with a lot of baggage doesn’t do anyone any good.

Its easy enough to say that but the GOPe defends their bad behavior and uses the "bad candidate" mantra to destroy anyone who gets in their way.

The GOP wanted pure insider party player Dave Camp to run but he refused. Instead Terri Land ran, she had a GOPe pedigree but wasn't unfriendly to the tea party so they immediately started the Grimsley Wormtongue whisper campaign.



They started with the "She's gaffe prone" line while never providing any examples. Then they move on to "She's a bad campaigner" with no examples and they very publically strip her of funding. In the end what really made her bad was standing against amnesty and supporting a full repeal of Obamacare. But the worst sin was in speaking against DC centric senate power. Things like stripping the power of infrastructure funding from the feds and letting the states keep their tax dollars for doing it themselves.

I realize the Rovian groin leeches don't like hearing it but they are barely human and unworthy of respect.

I did my job and worked to help wrest power from the democrats and now I go back to exposing the GOPe scum wherever they may be found, often oozing up between our toes here at FR.
19 posted on 11/05/2014 4:49:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: goldstategop
Goldstategop, you're a moron. Look at what the GOP-e has done to the GOP in California, it barely exists.

In 2012, Rove won 2% of his campaigns.

You win some and you lose some in politics. The problem for the GOP is that the Tea Party is their base. They had to bust their butts to drag Cochran and Roberts across the finish line against two more conservative candidates. I don't think either could be classified as Tea Party, just more conservative than the long-time and I mean long-time, old GOP Senators Cochran and Roberts.

That's who the GOP-e think are the future of the party.

GOP-e is dumber than a sack of hammers with far too much money.

20 posted on 11/05/2014 5:37:26 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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