Posted on 10/26/2014 3:20:18 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
A wise strategy.
My Debit Card stays parked.
Absolutely. Given the existence of credit cards, I see no reason to have a debit card. In fact, when they were first introduced, I called up my bank and complained. I had an ATM-only replacement by return mail. Why would I need a stinkin' debit card, with direct access to my bank account, when I have AX, DS, MC, VI?
However, according to Apple, Apple Pay works for both debit and credit. So, no problemo! One of these days, I might buy one.
If you are set up all Mac it makes it to print just fine.
True...I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I love my Macs.
See ya’,
Ed
Ahh...I see now why Apple made the security change on their phones. (Supposedly) The louder the FBI screams the less I believe them.
NFC opens the door to easy hacking by anyone within range of the transaction. That’s why I ALWAYS keep my NFC turned OFF.
NO THANKS!!!!
What abysmal ignorance.
Having worked with professional publishers using both Macs and Windows, the problems you describe are from AMATEURS who merely think they can do page layout. People using fonts built on crap. The Macs were invariably better and were used for glossy magazine production. PCs? Junk printing.
The fonts in their ads they supplied came from people who CREATED their ads using free fonts downloaded from the internet and usually built by kids on existing frameworks of professional fonts (usually Adobe) without changing the metrics, hinting, kern spacing, and sometimes not even the screen fonts. A professional publisher would not allow outside fonts to be sent in with an ad, or the ad must be provided as a PDF, or as encapsulated postscript. The printing setups I've had anything to do with kept ALL outside ads completely quarantined from all production machines until they were converted in-house to a safe mode to handle in the final document so as to avoid corruption of our font files. I've cleaned up enough font folders to know exactly what messes can be made by junk ad copy bringing in fonts that would overwrite existing fonts.
And no, your PC is not handling it properly because for the most parts PC ignore the proper hinting and other typography the Mac handles for true professional output. Put the same page output from a Mac and a PC side-by-side and examine them under a loupe and you will see the differences. They are quite noticeable. . . and get even more so in color separations.
The Mac is a professional machine that handles things the PC cannot and you don't even know it.
You are also talking ancient history, guns. Modern Macs, for the last twelve years, will refuse to use a corrupted font.
Go to any company that wants high-end, professional print output and you will find Macs in production, not PCs. That is a fact. It is only in the last few years that the Windows PC is starting to catch up in some areas.
Guns is talking about a known problem from at least 20 years ago when printers would accept ads from amateur graphic artists who created their ads using fonts downloaded from who-knew-where. These fonts were often named the same as genuine Adobe fonts and ignorant printers/layout people would load the ad into Pagemaker/Quark and also load the included fonts. These would overwrite the original font files with the same named fonts. The ones coming in with the ads were a mess.
I had one published that had a magazine, almost ready for print where all-of-the-sudden, every page had ONE character per page in their body documents, after loading the ads. They were at a loss. As their contract IT guy, I was called in. It was a corrupted Time Roman font. The kerning metric table had been replaced by some amateur with one that literally had the equivalent over a thousand spaces of space between characters. LOL! Why? Who knows. But it resulted in only one character per page. I went through their font folder and found over 80% of their fonts were corrupted or phony, having been replaced with fakes over the years they had been bringing in ads and just installing them into the final copy of the magazine. We had to buy the complete set of Adobe Fonts ($499 per Mac times 15 macs, IIRC) and re-install the fonts, to correct the issue before they could safely go to press! I instituted the rule that ONLY specified Adobe fonts in ads were to be accepted. . . and if someone wanted a specialty fancy font, they had to submit the ad in PDF or Encapsulated Postscript and even THOSE were kept on a quarantined Mac until they were assured it was safe to move to the main file. NO MORE PROBLEMS! Whew!
Even with font problems then, Macs did far better than PCs.
It makes it to print just fine going back and forth to PCs too. You are just ignorant.
A couple of words for you I can’t say on here. Back to the subject...can I send you a bill for the charge backs from fonts that drop out of the ads. They looked fine on the Mac, double checked at two stations as had become routine. On to pagination using a PC. Sometimes fonts don’t show up there. Check list for fonts not to be used and rework art. Clears pagination and off to the press. Morning paper and customer calls saying part of their ad did not print, text missing. Charge back. Got rid of the macs over a year ago and problem solved.
Now we may be ignorant for solving the problem that way but it is solved and nothing was lost by going to PCs except the charge backs and the extra IT guy dedicated to the Macs. He is gone too. So is wasting money on a much more expensive machine.
Pick your two words for my decription of you, any two of the non complimentary variety will do.
I’ll go with your post except the last sentence. No noticeable difference in end result. In that respect Macs are not better, not for my money.
You talk about Macs in your original post from 10 years ago. Now you want me to believe you just got rid of a Mac a year ago. Was your Mac an antique? No, it doesn't fly. You are the outlier here. Been too long in the industry and too many professionals use Macs for what YOU claim to be true. It IS the gold standard in publishing, not PCs. You don't know what you are talking about. . . or your people simply did not know what you were doing.
I've even explained what was happening when there was a font problem, because I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. You could not, because YOU DON'T. All you can repeat is your litany of Macs bad. PCs good. That is nothing.
It is the PC that does not handle fonts correctly. You've heard that from another professional in the field as well, not just me. Look where your problems occurred and your fonts disappeared. . . and on FR on YOUR machine where things don't appear on screen, where you asked me about a font YOU COULD NOT SEE! Your vaunted PC didn't have a complete font set, otherwise, there would not have been a blank box there. Typical. Macs ship with complete font sets. They were and are built from the ground up with typography in mind.
I have had over 35 years of working with both platforms and not have not had fonts drop as you've describe since MacOS9 and the junk amateur fonts I described above. You obviously do not have matching font sets between your machines. . . and I really suspect your external ad makers were using SCREEN fonts to make their ads that did not have printer fonts attached. Amateurs. Alternately, the ad copy contained a licensed font that the copy did not carry with it. When it was loaded onto the Mac, the Mac had the licensed Font set, but apparently the Windows machine did not, and the font was not encapsulated in the ad. . . and your people weren't smart enough to load a licensed copy of the font onto the Windows computer, or to include a print set from the Mac. These are all things I would check in diagnosing your claimed problem. A Mac will handle either of those situations at printing with font equivalent substitution tables, a PC does not.
I will cut your people a break that maybe they didn't know the font existed, but your error checking should have caught it at several points. Where were your EDITORS???? How about print proof copies to your customers?
My thoughts about you are beneath comment because of your trollish behavior. Enough said.
Only if there is something to hack. On the iPhone 6, there literally is nothing to hack. The only thing they could do is activate the iPhone 6 to request that you initiate a purchase. The activation MUST send the information about the purchase before the iPhone 6 will do anything: The amount, purchase, and the store code. The iPhone can only complete the purchase when the owner touches the TouchID fingerprint reader with his living finger. Nothing else will work.
By doing so, all that is sent in return by NFC is a single use completion of sale Token, which immediately is communicated to the Point of Sale device, completing the transaction.
IF your hypothetical hacker intercepts the transaction and copies the Token, he's gotten nothing of any value. The Token is already used and can never be used again. That Token contains no identifying information, no credit card number, no address, no pin code, nothing identifying you. For all his work hacking to the signal, he has diddly squat that is usable.
What you say is true for NFC credit cards. There are stories of people walking past people with devices in their brief cases that can trigger NFC credit cards and downloading every bit of info on them. That cannot happen on an iPhone 6. It will wait for the fingerprint on the TouchID and only send the response Token. Nothing more.
Incidentally, when that event with the magazine took place 20 years ago, PCs were not even in the running for quality of post-production in publishing. . . or pre-press. The screen issues were abysmal on Windows.
Representation of WYSIWYG on Windows made accurate typography and layout ridiculous. It was a fact of the geometry of screen display. Macs, again, designed from day one for typography literally displayed on the screen what you would get when printed. Apple used square pixels while Windows had rectangular pixels. Made for a mess.
Today, the Quartz Graphic Layer that Apple uses to display the screen on Macs is in reality Display PDF. . . and it makes it very easy to see WYSIWYG for typography and font rendering. It also means that if you can see it on the screen, you can make a PDF of it for importation into a publishable document. . . and you can define the resolution to be what you need. Not so on PCs.
Print proofs don’t drop fonts. You don’t know what you are talking about.
Keep wasting your money on overpriced machines.
We get a camera ready ad from an ad service in PDF format. The mac would not open it. Send the file to IT guy that handles PC’s in the department as ask him to open it and work it. He does, sends it back and it works.
You guys can talk all you want about how great the Macs are but they were nothing but frustration in our department. When the department went to all PC all those problems went away with no discernible difference in ad print quality.
None of you Mac devotees has explained why a more expensive machine is better other than to simply say they are and to resort to “you just don’t know what you are talking about.”
The objective is to get the ads processed (100 or so a night) and meet deadline. Whatever gets that done best is best. The nuance about it being infinitesimally better (and I don’t concede that point) is pointless when weighing the objective. Bottom line, Macs gone, productivity improved. That’s our departments experience (and yes we still have artists in the department complaining the Macs are gone).
The Mac wouldn't open a PDF????? I find that hard to believe. That simply does not make sense. I have never run into a PDF that I could not open on a modern Mac. Again, an OS X Mac uses Display PDF for its screen. . . and creating a PDF on a Mac does not even require Adobe Acrobat. . . it's a function of the operating system, built in.
That’s our departments experience (and yes we still have artists in the department complaining the Macs are gone).
The reason they are complaining is that THEIR productivity has suffered. We know that happens. Your claims fly in the face of our experience. ALL of your problems obviously stemmed from an incompetent IT department.
You still have not told me when ALL of this happened. . . nor have you said what vintage Mac you were using. I’ve asked you and you dodge the questions. Your statements show you have no experience with modern Macs at all.
Yikes, what a story!!
I’ve seen so many cases of corrupted clipping paths, alpha channels, spot colors that are munged up, and on and on...
I long ago made the determination that we would only use fonts from acceptable foundries such as ITC/Monotype, Agfa, Adobe, etc., and try to use the postscript versions, although true type is getting better with their metrics and tables.
I love multiple masters way back when, and otf seemed great, but sadly, both those technologies flew by the wayside.
See ya’, Sword,
Ed
Yup...you’re right on.
I remember when we saw the Mac Quadra 800 at Comdex many, many years ago, and Display Postscript was demonstrated, I switched to Macs and haven’t looked back.
We do use an E20 workstation here for bookkeeping and database work, and I tried porting some of our ads, flyers, brochures and magazine articles over to it, what a nightmare!
I packaged our ID files and reran the files through Photoshop CC, made sure the fonts mapped properly to the Windows versions (same foundries) and proofed it in ID...the lpi, the screens, the alpha channels, spot colors and the font metrics were all messed up, and made bad versions when we RIPped it, then PDF’ed it...Win 7 is just not set up for a printing/publishing workflow.
Now, there are some expensive RIP’s you can buy, like EFI, Onyx, Island, etc., but why bother when the Mac does it bundled in its hardware and software?
See ya’,
Ed
I’m also a graphic artist, as well as a layout guy, and I couldn’t work without my Wacom, the Adobe CC suite and my Mac Pro...it would so difficult.
Ed
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