Posted on 10/25/2014 6:55:04 PM PDT by Gadsden1st
I would have to agree.
In Southern California we don’t have that dynamic.
This would be very tough in the cold traditional flu season.
I heard “Doctors Without Borders” was just renamed “Doctors Without Common Sense.”
“I heard “Doctors Without Borders” was just renamed “Doctors Without Common Sense.””
Definitely more medically accurate :-)
Elderberry and Japanese honeysuckle have both shown promise in fighting influenza. When I’m more awake tomorrow I’ll post links to the studies.
I had seen info on the Honeysuckle but not the Elderberry.
I think I’m done for tonight also. Thanks.
That was a very good read. Thank you for posting it.
I got a giggle at this:
““Have you practiced the drills in the ER in case we have someone show up with a possible exposure?”
“More times than Lois Lerner has hit her hard drive with a hammer.”
Hee hee!
He makes a great point about Ebola- or any other highly infectious disease- basically collapsing our medical infrastructure. And we see how that can happen when we have a small peek at this already in healthcare workers, first in Dallas and now in New York saying, “cough, cough. I don’t feel so well. I won’t be in to work today...”
He also makes a suggestion about an “Ebola mobile” that goes to the home of the infected, drops off supplies like rehydration fluid, gowns, gloves, and masks, biohazard bags, and clean linens. This is similar to what is starting to take place in Liberia and Sierra Leone, which had a healthcare system teetering on the edge already before Ebola became an epidemic there. I surely hope it doesn’t come to that here, but he makes great points about something like Ebola or a Spanish flu type illness could completely collapse our hospitals and clinics.
Thanks again.
The summary provided by the other poster is consistent with the knowledge I already have about other pathogens. Thus, it is not worth my time to go read something that I already know. Had the summary not been consistent with knowledge I already have, I would have probably gone and read the whole thing, as well as any references mentioned or implied within the article. And then I would have determined if the article is genuine information worth knowing, or if it was written by some crackpot.
That was not my take at all. It wasn't the Spanish flu or Ebola in and of itself, it was the collapse of medical infrastructure due to healthcare workers saying, "Thanks, but I think I'll sit this one out."
This guy will certainly be audited after he said what he said about the CDC and the Ebola czar.
Thanks for that.
Concern is justified.
Then there is justified concern over the financial blowback. Gee! I wonder how the bowling alley the NYC doctor visited this week is doing financially this week. What is the impact of a reduced number of elective surgeries scheduled at the Dallas hospital is having?
Absolutely!
We have already seen what a handful of cases can do to our hospitals: infected nurses; HCWs calling in sick or just not showing up; hazardous waste disposal issues; and as you noted, surgeries being canceled. Not to mention the ravaging of the reputation of the hospital.
Then there is the community reaction. Look at what happened with the schools where children who either flew on the same flight- or whose parents flew on the same flight as Amber Vinson. Now imagine this becoming a more widespread outbreak. Our whole economy would plummet. Schools would close, as would shopping malls and anywhere people gathered in large numbers. It would be devastating to small businesses.
We (collective we) like to think that we would handle this so much better than “those Africans”, but I see what has transpired so far, and I sincerely doubt that. Oh, we may not wash and touch the dead like they do, but we can deny our symptoms and jump in the car or bus to get some flu meds from the local grocery or drugstore— or go bowling. We can be (not unjustifiably) fearful of our government and quarantines, and we can be just as ignorant about how dangerous this virus is. Certainly some of our supposed “experts” seem to be.
There is just a little too much arrogance in our officials about our ability to handle an outbreak that makes me very uncomfortable. Yes, concern is very justified.
I pray that we are able to keep this contained to very few isolated cases.
Interesting article. Thanks for posting. Think about how you would defend against it, how not to be a victim. Health/life BUMP!
Impressive in and of itself.
the last place you want to be if a bad contagious disease outvreak occurs is a hospital.
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
The most mild strain of Ebola killed 40%, the nastiest 90%, and so far, with the best available numbers this one is killing about 70%.
We say our better medicine is capable of saving us, and it has done well, but it can only handle so many cases.
There are 23 level 4 beds in the country, and even with our ability to improvise, the mortality rate here would jump significantly in the event that the system is overwhelmed--which likely would only take a few hundred cases.
Oh to be a fly on that wall.
If he is such an esteemed expert, why was he riding the NYC subway with symptomatic Ebola?
and caught it in the first place.
He leaves out first responders. If 50% of Fire and EMS is sick who’s going to take people to the hospital for other reasons like heart attack or broken limbs?
Who is going to fight fires?
Okay... You pay for it.
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