Posted on 10/20/2014 7:14:24 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
ts a movement thats been building in recent years: efforts by states to reclaim their constitutional authority by declaring Washingtons health care laws, gun control or other restrictions simply dont apply within their boundaries.
After all, the Constitution stipulates that, except for a couple of dozen specific issues such as national defense, the powers in the U.S. rest with the states.
Now a new lawsuit contends states can regain their authority by returning to the practice of having state legislatures elect U.S. senators, as the Constitution originally required.
The case is being brought by author, columnist, commentator and activist Devvy Kidd.
A former congressional candidate, she has been a guest on thousands of talk shows and authored Why A Bankrupt America and Blind Loyalty.
In her complaint, filed in court in Texas, she contends the 17th Amendment was not legally adopted, because several key states cited in support of it never even voted.
She noted the drafters of the Constitution were concerned about maintaining state sovereignty, which is why state legislatures were given the power to select U.S. senators.
It was like that for more than 100 years until the 17th Amendment was adopted in 1913, establishing direct election of senators by popular vote.
In a recent commentary, she said the 17 Amendment was critical in destroying the balance of power in the U.S. Congress, wrestling away the sovereign power of the states and any representation in Washington, D.C.
John Jay, co-author of The Federalist Papers, Kidd pointed out, is quote saying unlike the Senate, where the two-thirds rule was in force for treaties and impeachment, the lower house had nothing to do with treaties; it represented the people whereas the Senate represented the states for the Federalists always a significant distinction.
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PING!
Sheesh! Does she really expect the courts to intervene and void the 17th Amendment?
I was JUST talking to some folks about this the other day. Repeal the 17th and watch the country shift red overnight. It’s amazing to me that we allowed this charade to go on as long as it has.
Senators are intended to serve at the pleasure and discretion of the governor of each state. They are state-assigned delegates to act as ambassadors for the states. I never understood why this was considered a good idea. It just doesn’t fit.
The same ploy was used against the income tax.
While I'm 100% on board with repealing 17A, the notion of a court striking down 17A is so constitutionally ill-concieved I can hardly get my head around it.
With all due respect, why do you label the effort “a ploy”?
As she states, the 17th was either ratified legally or it was not. Her trying to
legally ascertain the facts and seek judicial relief for us all, apparently at her own expense, is a commendable effort I think.
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If anyone missed your post, they should go back an read it.
That said, I wish my fellow citizens would use their votes more wisely, but it's still much better than those in power choosing who will join them.
Another problem some of us have...I live in Illinois. Am I going to get to feeling good about having the pack of criminals who run this state picking our senators? We've got an ex-governor sitting in the slammer right now for trying to sell 0's senate seat.
It's not as "slam dunk" for all as it might appear to some.
The framers of the Constitution got this one right, building into the Constitution inherent conflict between the federal government and state governments. The 17th Amendment allows NY and CA billionaires, through campaign finances, to decide who your next senator will be. Prior to the 17th, they would have had to pay off too many state legislators to make it practical to do so.
I could not possibly DISagree with you more. The 17th is THE reason we have lifetime Senators that move to D.C. to live the high life!
Funny, I blame the voters.
That was my point in saying that the suit was ill-conceived. If a court can strike down a part of the constitution itself then there is no constitution. There is only rule by judicial fiat. We are more or less there now but a court making such a ruling would be the final nail in the coffin's lid.
In 2012, Maryland became the 40th state to ratify the 17th amendment.
So far afaik, ten states HAVE NOT ratified the 17th amendment.
The Constitution says no state shall be denied suffrage without their consent...
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17th Amendment ping.
Exactly! The Founders did not allow a popular vote for Senators. Just look at N.C. $100,000,000 being spent for a single Senate race?!? You and I can and will wade through all that BS but there is no chance for a average voter to get all the true facts. Your state legislators are not average voters. All we have now is popularity contests with, many times, the winner being the one that spends the most money.
We have a Democrat controlled Senate right now. Just go check who controls the vast majority of state legislatures. Hint: It ain't Democrats! The 17th amendment undermines the concept of a representative Republic. The Federalists would be fuming over the 17th!
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