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Mother Jones Claims the Rate of Mass Shootings Has Tripled Since 2011. Is That True?
reason.com ^ | 10/16/2014 | Jesse Walker

Posted on 10/17/2014 10:53:28 AM PDT by rktman

Two years ago, Mother Jones published a "Guide to Mass Shootings in America," which claimed to show that such slayings happen more often now than in the past. The feature, whose data have been updated periodically since it first went up, has been both widely cited and harshly disputed. This week the outlet has published a new analysis claiming that mass shootings occur far more frequently than they did several decades ago and that the rate has tripled since 2011. Whether you buy that depends on whether you buy into the previous piece, because the new article has essentially the exact same flaws.

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Well, if you can't believe your mother, who ya gonna believe?
1 posted on 10/17/2014 10:53:28 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

No, but the amount of false flags have gone up....


2 posted on 10/17/2014 10:55:47 AM PDT by Commander X (TOTUS...destroying the USA one lie at a time.)
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To: rktman

M.F. Jones should only be printed here as a joke. Not for serious content.


3 posted on 10/17/2014 10:58:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: rktman

The single biggest root cause is the ACLU. They threatened Regan and he began the release of the loon’s from the looney bin.

There are plenty of others and the bulk point back to the liberals.

Hell, Obama is trying to kill us all in the latest Ebola crisis. The libs are the embodiment of the devil himself.


4 posted on 10/17/2014 11:03:38 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Commander X

It was bad enough when we had to listen to the moonbats whining about “false flags”, now we have to hear it from our own side.


5 posted on 10/17/2014 11:08:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I think an interesting analysis would be to plot the number of mass shootings alongside the growth of “gun-free zones” to see if there is a correlation.


6 posted on 10/17/2014 11:09:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Oh yeah, another thing I thought of is that the psychos feed off each other. We should study whether mass shootings increase after massive media coverage is devoted to previous mass shootings.
7 posted on 10/17/2014 11:15:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: rktman

The government needs to confiscate the guns so that the public will “voluntarily” go to the Ebola treatment centers.

It’s for your own good.


8 posted on 10/17/2014 11:15:37 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: rktman

The question asked: “Is that true?”

I don’t believe it but does anyone have a verifiable answer to the question??


9 posted on 10/17/2014 11:16:30 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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I don’t believe it but does anyone have a verifiable answer to the question??

As with unemployment figures, the CPI, and global temperatures, they've changed the definition of what constitutes a mass shooting, so...which set of metrics for comparison do you want to go with? Apples to penguins, or vending machine gum to the mystical feeling one gets when walking in the woods of Germany?

10 posted on 10/17/2014 11:24:05 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: elpadre
The answer is no.

You can play games with data to make the answer yes but that is like my saying that 100% of people will have homemade french onion soup tonight.

As long as I eliminate from the data set every one who does not live with me the statement is true.

11 posted on 10/17/2014 11:27:14 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: rktman

Silly lefties. Like Dan Rather and non-Democrats, anything they say about the right to keep and bear firearms is negative.
Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture is a discredited 2000 book by Michael A. Bellesiles on American gun culture. The book is an expansion of a 1996 Journal of American History article that uses falsified research to argue that guns were uncommon during peacetime in early United States and that a culture of gun ownership arose only much later.


12 posted on 10/17/2014 11:28:53 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: rktman
Although there's always the possibility that a media organ which identifies itself as liberal or leftist could be right about something, their word can never be taken at face value. The left lies about everything from crime statistics, to rape on campi, to hunger in the U.S., to violence of Super Bowl sunday, to women not paid as much as men for the same job....you get the picture. There's a lot more.

They have spread so many lies and falsehoods, they simply cannot be trusted to tell the truth about anything. And since Mother Jones is the mother of all lying leftist publications, its word should be doubted automatically.

13 posted on 10/17/2014 11:39:50 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: rktman

An oddly self-biasing question.

The very term “mass shooting” inherently rejects any situation which would have been except for the would-be mass-shooter being stopped before casualties reached the “mass” stage.


14 posted on 10/17/2014 11:53:33 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: rktman

Could be true but I’ll bet they don’t look into how many were perpetrated by lefties.


15 posted on 10/17/2014 12:10:31 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Boogieman

I read 92% were done in gun free or extremely restrictive environments. The real proof is when they off themselves when challenged by an armed person.


16 posted on 10/17/2014 12:19:21 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: rktman

More Muslims = more killings.

Put a Muslim in the White House = de facto support of Muslim terrorists.


17 posted on 10/17/2014 12:48:40 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: rktman

Bookmark.


18 posted on 10/17/2014 12:54:07 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: rktman

The FBI’s bogus report on mass shootings
http://nypost.com/2014/10/12/the-fbis-bogus-report-on-mass-shootings/


19 posted on 10/17/2014 1:58:31 PM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: GailA

So, two wrong (reports) make a right? Right?


20 posted on 10/17/2014 2:05:38 PM PDT by rktman ("The only thing dumber than a brood hen is a New York democrat." Mother Abagail.)
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