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Russian Scientists Dismiss US Company's Statement On Thermonuclear Fusion Breakthrough
Itar Tass ^ | 10/16/2014 | Itar Tass

Posted on 10/16/2014 8:16:18 AM PDT by goldstategop

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To: goldstategop

Based on my experience there are probably russian and Chinese scientists on the research team. The Chinese are common place in our best industrial research labs. Some have become US citizens to gain additional access. Many go back to china with what they know. PS, I never met one that had a bad thing to say about China.


21 posted on 10/16/2014 10:02:02 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Don’t be fooled. With a pipeline, fracked crude can be profitable all the way down to $37. I saw an article that put the extraction cost of a BBL at Bakken as low as $12/BBL. Transportation is going to double that, by train (nothing like using 19th century tech to solve a problem).

Putin could be swinging from a Ukrainian lamppost inside of six weeks if we ever got serious enough about energy autonomy.


22 posted on 10/16/2014 10:06:55 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Bingo, when natural gas got really cheap about a year or so ago, exploration in Alberta came to a halt. It was too expensive to get the gas out of the ground. It trickled down to me pretty quickly. I sell a guy that makes access mats or swamp mats. They use these to drive on to get to the drilling sites. They are made out of lumber. My customer basically shut down for 4-5 months. I did not sell him any 2x8-8’ or 14’ Douglas fir for about 6 months.


23 posted on 10/16/2014 10:15:05 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Bobalu

This Fusion reactor could generate electricity; but, only the core (boiler equivalent) will fit on a flatbed trailer.

Given a practical electric vehicle to displace current vintage technology, it will take one to two decades to transition off liquid petroleum fuels.


24 posted on 10/16/2014 5:06:27 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Yeah, and Russia is going to colonize the Moon, and then Mars, by 2030.

About 50 years ago, Sergei Korolev, who ran one of two space “companies” for the USSR, read an interview of Von Braun where the meistro said the lunar missions would use 100 percent cryo engines in the upper stages. Korolev laughed, said there were too many problems, it would take many years to solve them all.

Two years later he read about the 100 percent cryo engines being fired on the test stand in a completely successful test.

If they can’t steal it, they haven’t stolen it, and don’t know anything about it.


25 posted on 10/16/2014 7:08:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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and from 18 months ago, regarding (among other things) this very same Lockheed-Martin project:

Nuclear fusion from Google, Lockheed, Draper Fisher
Smart Planet | Feb. 15 | Mark Halper
Posted on 3/4/2013 12:01:59 AM by Kevmo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2993176/posts


26 posted on 10/16/2014 7:10:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cboldt
Not saying the design principle is technologically viable, but there isn’t much that is fairly characterized as “hiding the ball”.

This hype isn't about 'cold' fusion, right? If not, what contains the heat... isn't there a wall problem?

27 posted on 10/16/2014 7:38:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there's been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: GOPJ

This one is hot fusion. The plasma appears to be confined in a sort of dogbone shape, which the inventors tout as the crux of the solution. So, the magnetic field is dogbone shaped, and the surrounding vessel/chamber walls form a (larger) dogbone shape. Yeah, the walls get hot, that’s the conventional part of the process. The walls are exposed to the light and neutron radiation of the fusion reaction.


28 posted on 10/16/2014 8:51:53 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The scientific community is working on an international project to build a first working fusion reactor. The forecast is something like 2030... or 2050.

Of course Russians, who are a party in the project, are sceptical. "Build it and show us" - is not an envious answer for the LM's bold promise.

29 posted on 10/16/2014 10:58:24 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: Cboldt
This one is hot fusion. The plasma appears to be confined in a sort of dogbone shape, which the inventors tout as the crux of the solution. So, the magnetic field is dogbone shaped, and the surrounding vessel/chamber walls form a (larger) dogbone shape. Yeah, the walls get hot, that’s the conventional part of the process. The walls are exposed to the light and neutron radiation of the fusion reaction.

I had the feeling you would know... A cooling Möbius Strip dogbone? I asked because I've quit believing in cold fusion... now I know. Thanks for taking the time to explain...

30 posted on 10/17/2014 4:51:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there's been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: GOPJ
-- I had the feeling you would know... A cooling Moebius Strip dogbone? --

From the figures I've seen, just a simple dogbone. Figure from Aviation Week

Skunk Works Reveals Compact Fusion Reactor Details - Aviation Week, Oct 15, 2014

31 posted on 10/17/2014 5:02:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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