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Jim Cramer on the Stock Market: What the Fall in Oil Means
thestreet ^ | Oct 13, 2014 | Jim Cramer

Posted on 10/14/2014 6:04:38 AM PDT by ckilmer

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To: bray

totally agree.

cheaper energy prices are pure oxygen for the economy. and set the stage for higher demand later.


41 posted on 10/14/2014 6:40:46 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: firebrand

We’ll have to agree to disagree.


42 posted on 10/14/2014 6:42:12 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: bestintxas

I expect you’re right but the bright vista of energy independence in three years has me hoping that oil prices will not go below 80@ barrel in the next three years.


43 posted on 10/14/2014 6:44:25 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: MrB

But the USA must become energy independent through the use of our own proven resources, not through expensive, unreliable, and unproven “alternatives”.
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That’s all about electricity. That’s not oil.


44 posted on 10/14/2014 6:45:38 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: Revelation 911

totally agree.

lower oil costs are a big deal for everyone.


45 posted on 10/14/2014 6:46:29 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: ckilmer

Clarify?

Natural gas and coal produce electricity.
And there are expensive “alternatives” being explored to replace diesel,

so it’s more of a general approach to ENERGY, not particularly motor vehicle propulsion or electricity production,

that must be first established through the use of proven and affordable resources,

then we can dabble on the edges with the cute little “alternatives”.


46 posted on 10/14/2014 6:48:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ckilmer

it can still come.

An ISIS army moving toward Riyadh and the Saudi Royal family threatened is very believable and could cause dramatic changes in a heartbeat.


47 posted on 10/14/2014 6:48:52 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: ckilmer

Cramer’s analysis as usual is wrong and is as usual sensationalized to get a mention in the news media.

Oil and its infrastructure still have a long ways to go before anything like Cramer’s doomsday scenario is even on the radar. Domestically the new supplies are not yet near 50%.

When the oversupply becomes a concern, some of the oil will be permitted to be exported but it won’t actually get that far. It won’t get exported because the rest of the world will drop their crude prices. The Middle East will decline in its importance. The net result is collapsing prices, a weakened Islam and lower costs for everyone.


48 posted on 10/14/2014 6:52:32 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: ckilmer

Don’t forget we’re talking about the stock market. It has a devilishly independent “mind” of its own. The drop in oil prices is cited everywhere as a cause, but you have to go outside the US media to find out about the black-market oil.


49 posted on 10/14/2014 6:54:13 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: ckilmer

there may be improvements to the tiny electric vehicles, maybe even by 2020. but their inefficiency and limited range will prevent their widespread public use, and so far has limited industrial use to only those who get government subsidy. I will believe it when I see it.
The simple fact of the matter is, coal-generated electricity used to charge inefficient batteries in order to run vehicles is not even a more environmentally sound approach to transportation — it’s a “feel-good” lib pipe-dream.
On the other hand, we could see large trucks switch to natural gas. if some company started producing nat-gas cars, they could become popular quickly, given the downward pressure on prices lately.


50 posted on 10/14/2014 7:15:57 AM PDT by NDpapajoe ("Our Country isn't what it once was" -- --Hopey Changerton 8-2008 speaking to a 7-yr-old little girl)
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To: ckilmer

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition:

34 War is good for business.
35 Peace is good for business.


51 posted on 10/14/2014 7:21:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I agree, The problem is that US made items cost much more. People on tight budgets will naturally buy the lower priced goods. In some ways the cheap chinese products have allowed us to maintain our standard of living. My approach is to buy as much as I can used. The new stuff, I try to buy American. My Ford Focus is an example. Made in The USA and it’s a really good car.


52 posted on 10/14/2014 7:23:45 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What!
Stop importing mostly crap?
Foolish.


53 posted on 10/14/2014 7:27:29 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a dept. of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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To: rdcbn
The drop in oil is being accomplished in large part because the Saudis are dropping their prices to limit the expansion of foreign production and to prevent competitors from getting into the market

You seem to have a cart-and-horse situation here,

54 posted on 10/14/2014 7:27:57 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: USCG SimTech
The Russians can have all the oil in the ground they want but if they are limited to Russian technology to get it out then they can't afford most of it. Arctic oil will be more expensive to extract even while causing the price of oil to slide further even with American oil tech, and its benefit to Russia will be less than it would seem.
55 posted on 10/14/2014 7:31:28 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: ckilmer

These things even themselves out in an unfettered market.


56 posted on 10/14/2014 7:32:53 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
All that can be accomplished bycutting or eliminating corporate taxes and cutting or eliminating 99% of regulations.
57 posted on 10/14/2014 7:34:54 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus
After the Arab Oil Crisis American oil industry development kicked into high gear fueled by high oil prices.

As those resources came online, the Saudis opened the taps and crashed the price of oil to the $ 10 a bbl. level.

American oil producers list their shirts so badly it took 3 years sky rocket oil prices to convince them start drilling again.

Of course the Saudis are responding to competitive pressure.

History shows they respond ruthlessly and effectively

58 posted on 10/14/2014 7:38:17 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; ckilmer
Bump.

Saudis To The Oil Market: Get Used To Lower Prices ($80 A Barrel?)

59 posted on 10/14/2014 7:40:39 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: MrB

Yep.

What you said.


60 posted on 10/14/2014 7:52:15 AM PDT by gettinolder
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