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Jim Cramer on the Stock Market: What the Fall in Oil Means
thestreet ^ | Oct 13, 2014 | Jim Cramer

Posted on 10/14/2014 6:04:38 AM PDT by ckilmer

 
 
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Jim Cramer on the Stock Market: What the Fall in Oil Means
 

NEW YORK (Real Money) -- Blame it on the Permian. That's where the oil is flooding into the markets right now. Sure, it is absolutely true that the Bakken and the Eagle Ford shales are responsible for the lion's share of new oil being produced in this country. Sure, the Bakken in North Dakota is amazing with its 1.1 million barrels a day, double what it was when I went there a couple of years ago, and the Eagle Ford is sensational with 1.5 million barrels a day now. But the Permian is 1.7 million barrels and it is conceivable that it could DOUBLE over the next two years. That's right, double.

Last night, I asked the CEO of Magellan Midstream Partners (MMP) , Mike Mears, and he didn't rule it out. Why would Mears know? Because he runs the biggest pipelines out of the Permian. He told me the numbers jump every single day and the more pipe that gets laid, the more we are going to pump. I got the sense that the gating factor is all about exporting, because Magellan is also one of the largest storage companies. He says that while there's storage that could handle most of what's coming out of the Permian right now, if it goes to the levels I am talking about we will have no place to put it and not enough refining capacity to refine it.


Yes, there's that much more coming on line.

I think this decline in oil price is a very real issue for this economy. The boom can be self-fulfilling at this pace. All talk about being continentally sufficient by 2020 is now off the table. I get the sense we could be there within three years at this blistering pace. But without the storage, we will have to cut back on the drilling. And if prices go lower, then the budgets will have to be cut back, too.

 

In other words, the boom is sowing the seeds of its own demise, being pushed along by the OPEC countries that don't want us to be self-sufficient.

If you take away this boom, you take away the biggest growth opportunities for good jobs. There is so much at risk right now with this price of oil that the selloff can make sense.

Think about it. We have no energy policy. We don't have a fossil-fuel-friendly president who sees what is about to happen: overproduction with no place to put the oil. We can't build the storage capacity, pipelines and refineries to use all the oil we have.

So, what started out as some huge windfall of oil and natural gas is now turning into something that could go very awry with just a few more dollars down for West Texas. We will be knocking the price down ourselves with no outlet for oil. And we will be bringing back unemployment in states that have been the backbone of our recovery.

It is a nightmarish scenario that had been part of a dream come true and it's just a few dollars down from happening, with no government in sight to prevent it.

Sure, it's a worst case scenario. But what exactly in heaven's name do you think the stocks are pricing in?


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: energy; fracking; oil; permian
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1 posted on 10/14/2014 6:04:38 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: jimpick; thackney; Kennard; bestintxas; nuke rocketeer; crusty old prospector

You guys will want to read the whole piece. Cramer says what’s happening in the Permian is changing calculations all over the place.


2 posted on 10/14/2014 6:10:01 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: ckilmer

The Rats can keep a lot of Canadian oil off the market by limiting the flow with the aid of their buddy ole Warren Buffet. The access to refineries in the Permian has been there for decades. I know, I grew up there. The libtards screwed up this time. By getting oil to the price they wanted they made frakking profitable. They tried to kill it and are trying to kill it like they did last time in the 70’s but this time it appears technology made it cheaper which wasn’t in their equation!


3 posted on 10/14/2014 6:10:53 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ckilmer

People we have exported American jobs to China now for more than one entire generation.

A massive communist country, now makes more than America makes.

Bring back American production. Stop importing everything.


4 posted on 10/14/2014 6:12:17 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: ckilmer

this is the best way I can think of to destroy the Russian economy and bring Adolph Putin to answer for his disastrous policies.


5 posted on 10/14/2014 6:14:04 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: ckilmer

The drop in oil is being accomplished in large part because the Saudis are dropping their prices to limit the expansion of foreign production and to prevent competitors from getting into the market
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6 posted on 10/14/2014 6:14:31 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: ckilmer

One thing not mentioned here is that we are not exactly in an economic boom. GDP growth has been tepid at best in recent years. In fact, the world economy seems to be slowing down. All this lessens the need for oil.


7 posted on 10/14/2014 6:15:32 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: ckilmer

But but but...

if oil becomes cheap, people won’t support “alternatives”.

Yep, that’s right. It’s a matter of worldview.

If you believe God created all of this and put us in it, then obviously the oil is here for us to discover and use - He actually MANDATES that we do.

If you believe the earth is a special kind of accident - it could be destroyed at the slightest misstep by Man, so Man must be strictly controlled by Those Who Know Better so as not to accidentally destroy the erf.


8 posted on 10/14/2014 6:15:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ckilmer; blam

Ping!


9 posted on 10/14/2014 6:16:18 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: ckilmer

Personally, I think he is wrong about cheap energy being a good thing. Cheap energy was one of His Blessings that when combined with His Blessing of Liberty was what made America. It will again, if “His People remember and call on Him”. That is ALL it will take and we can send the Rats scurrying. Please don’t talk to me about voting for Gillespie or McCain or whatever RHINO de jour. Thinking that if we just had the proper sort of congresscriminals would make a difference is right up there with”Next year in Jerusalem”.


10 posted on 10/14/2014 6:17:59 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: armydawg505
this is the best way I can think of to destroy the Russian economy and bring Adolph Putin to answer for his disastrous policies.

Except 2 weeks ago there was an article about an oil field 10X the content of the entire gulf of Mexico region discovered in one of Russia's northern seas.

11 posted on 10/14/2014 6:18:01 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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The real cause of the stock market fall is the fact that ISIS is selling oil at $30 a barrel on the black market. It has Saudi Arabia trying desperately to lock in its customers. ISIS is selling $3 million a day in oil.

Why isn’t the media reporting this? To prevent panic? To prevent war? Only the Shadow knows.


12 posted on 10/14/2014 6:19:22 AM PDT by firebrand
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The real cause of the stock market fall is the fact that ISIS is selling oil at $30 a barrel
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ISIS doesn’t control enough oil to be market moving.


13 posted on 10/14/2014 6:21:44 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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People we have exported American jobs to China now for more than one entire generation.

A massive communist country, now makes more than America makes.

Bring back American production. Stop importing everything.

Fracking is just starting up in China. Estimates are they will have enough oil to be fully independent for the next 80 years, once the industry takes root about 5 years from now.

14 posted on 10/14/2014 6:21:47 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: firebrand

The real cause of the stock market fall is the fact that ISIS is selling oil at $30 a barrel
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ISIS doesn’t control enough oil to be market moving.


15 posted on 10/14/2014 6:21:48 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: wastoute

The problem that Cramer is pointing to is that the Permian is on track to produce so much oil that they will collapse oil prices. and kill further production.


16 posted on 10/14/2014 6:23:05 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: ckilmer; thackney
We will be knocking the price down ourselves with no outlet for oil

Export...................

17 posted on 10/14/2014 6:23:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: USCG SimTech

Meanwhile America continues to shed jobs.

Bring back American jobs. Bring back American production.

Bring back American growth.


18 posted on 10/14/2014 6:23:30 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: USCG SimTech

Russian cost/barrel are Putin’s problem; not supply.


19 posted on 10/14/2014 6:23:52 AM PDT by Tugo (Beam me UP)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

totally agree. It may happen. In the last year, the outflow of jobs has gone net neutral.


20 posted on 10/14/2014 6:24:00 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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