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Saudis To The Oil Market: Get Used To Lower Prices ($80 A Barrel?)
BI ^ | 10-13-2014 | Ron Bousso and Joshua Schneyer

Posted on 10/13/2014 6:11:33 AM PDT by blam

Ron Bousso and Joshua Schneyer, Reuters
October 13, 2014

LONDON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia is quietly telling oil market participants that Riyadh is comfortable with markedly lower oil prices for an extended period, a sharp shift in policy that may be aimed at slowing the expansion of rival producers including those in the U.S. shale patch.

Some OPEC members including Venezuela are clamoring for urgent production cuts to push global oil prices back up above $100 a barrel. But Saudi officials have telegraphed a different message in private meetings with oil market investors and analysts recently: the kingdom, OPEC’s largest producer, is ready to accept oil prices below $90 per barrel, and perhaps down to $80, for as long as a year or two, according to people who have been briefed on the recent conversations.

The discussions, some of which took place in New York over the past week, offer the clearest sign yet that the kingdom is setting aside its longstanding de facto strategy of holding prices at around $100 a barrel for Brent crude in favor of retaining market share in years to come.

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KEYWORDS: eonomy; oil; prices; saudi
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1 posted on 10/13/2014 6:11:33 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
China, Russia Sign CNY150 Billion Local-Currency Swap As Plunging Oil Prices Sting Putin

"While it is beyond a doubt that the primary catalyst for Europe's triple-dip recession has been the nearly two quarters and counting of escalating Russian sanctions that were supposed to solely harm Putin (because who could have possibly foreseen that plunging German exports to Russia would have a far greater impact on the export-driven German economy), the truth is that the Kremlin itself is starting to hurt, if not so much as a result of the European trade embargo but mostly due to crashing oil prices, which have been driven lower almost exclusively by Saudi Arabia as part of its most recent secret bargain with the US, a bargain which as we read today is likely to tear OPEC apart."

2 posted on 10/13/2014 6:17:24 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: blam

Could it be that the Muslims in Riyadh are trying to help out one of their own come election time?


3 posted on 10/13/2014 6:20:52 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: blam

It isn’t unusual for oil prices to start falling around November due to decreased demand.


4 posted on 10/13/2014 6:23:02 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: blam

Hah.

Seems several years ago I recall it was around $85 bbl and gas prices were still over $3 gallon. Of course probably because of the price of refining it, but still...


5 posted on 10/13/2014 6:27:12 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: blam

The Obama lovers on CNBC are salivating every morning that the declining price of gas will ensure that this will be a great Christmas shopping season, thus propping up this false “recovery” when it is noticeably lagging.

It proves how out of touch they are, because with food prices going through the roof, any savings at the gas pump will be literally eaten up at the table. Anyone who really shops for food knows that a “pound” of coffee is now 12 oz. and costs more for less, and decent hamburger now costs what steak used to cost per pound. We are not fooled, and we are not happy.


6 posted on 10/13/2014 6:29:36 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Probably not, it’s probably just to slow down drilling in this country.

At $80, with the cost of some of the wells being drilled there will never be a payout.

It will cost more to drill/complete than you will ever get out of it so you don’t get investors to put money into drilling.

No money, no drilling.


7 posted on 10/13/2014 6:31:34 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

No they are trying to stamp out horizontal drilling and fracing by selling at an artificially low price.


8 posted on 10/13/2014 6:37:47 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: IMR 4350
Yep, I want lower fuel prices, but I wouldn't put it past the Sauds to try and bankrupt North American oil production.

I think the 80’s Texas oil bust is the example here.

9 posted on 10/13/2014 6:38:09 AM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: RC one

Costs drop considerably in each election cycle. This is normal, and I think one of the reasons that oil contracts have to firmed by august. So the oil companies buy during the drop.


10 posted on 10/13/2014 6:39:49 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

yep, there’s that too.


11 posted on 10/13/2014 6:42:08 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: blam
.. a sharp shift in policy that may be aimed at slowing the expansion of rival producers including those in the U.S. shale patch

There you have it.

And these are the 'friendly' sandni Muzis.

spit

12 posted on 10/13/2014 6:42:52 AM PDT by tomkat (tried optimism > didn't work)
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To: RC one

Not in this temperate climate i.e., northern Mi.


13 posted on 10/13/2014 6:45:33 AM PDT by mcshot (Kenya now says 0 or Soebarkah born in U.S..)
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To: tomkat

low oil prices will also be a slam on Russia and Venezuela

Which is nice.


14 posted on 10/13/2014 6:45:41 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Like they did during the Carter administration


15 posted on 10/13/2014 6:48:03 AM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
I believe Saudi Arabia will make plenty of money at this price or even substantially lower. Who this hurts is Russia, Venezuela, Iran and other high cost producers. Keep in mind these are the enemies of SA. It is also good for the economies in Europe & Japan because it may keep them from falling further into recession. It is also good for China and other major consumer countries. It may slow down some horizontal drillers but I believe it would have to drop into the $50s to cut it off. It is also good for the US economy in general if the price of diesel fuel would go down. This effects the delivered price of everything we purchase from shoes to bananas.
16 posted on 10/13/2014 6:49:20 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Obadiah

Drill baby drill worked.

If SA is hoping to affect an election it’s the 2016 election for Hillary to say Drill baby drill doesn’t work.


17 posted on 10/13/2014 6:50:10 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

I don’t think it relates to US politics. The Saudis are just trying to make US oil production unprofitable.


18 posted on 10/13/2014 6:50:23 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: South Dakota

Yep


19 posted on 10/13/2014 6:52:06 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: blam

Are they trying to force Frackers out of business with low Oil prices ?


20 posted on 10/13/2014 7:34:22 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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