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Canada is fed-up with US delay of Keystone, now planning alternative pipeline
americanthinker.com ^ | 10/12/2014 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/12/2014 7:56:09 AM PDT by rktman

President Obama and the Democratic Party have responded to deep-pocketed greenies, like coal billionaire Tom Steyer, by endlessly delaying the Keystone XL Pipeline, a project that enjoys wide public support, including that of labor unions in the private sector. The cost of that delay has included alienation of our friend and neighbor Canada, for whom finding markets for the vast tar sands energy reserves of Alberta is a key national priority.

It may be hard for Americans to realize how deeply dismayed Canadians are over our failure to proceed on a mutually beneficial project like Keystone. Poisonous seeds have been planted, as Canada sees its future prosperity imperiled by wealthy ideologues in the United States whose political donations mean more to the Obama administration than the welfare of our best friends and largest trading partner by far.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: ecowackos; epa; gangreen; idiots
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Seriously? Everyone knows it the gop-e that's holding everything up in congress. Just ask hairy screed. If the Koch brothers hadn't bought and paid for all gop'rs, all the wondreful proposals would be rockin' by now. Er, maybe not. Will buffet lose money on his trains? Nah.
1 posted on 10/12/2014 7:56:09 AM PDT by rktman
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President Obama and the Democratic Party have responded to deep-pocketed greenies, like coal billionaire Tom Steyer, by endlessly delaying the Keystone XL Pipeline

Not to mention rail billionaires like Warren Buffett.

Typical DemocRAT hypocrites. HypoCRATS.

2 posted on 10/12/2014 8:01:34 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

I have often wondered, why does it take over 5 years, and we’re still not done, to study a project such as this pipeline?

Officially it hasn’t been rejected or approved. Officially, we are still studying it. Officially, we are still gathering more information about costs, enviro. impacts, etc.

How is it that we won World War 2 in less time than it takes to study a proposed construction project such as a pipeline?

Granted, any proposed project like this has impacts, and many moving parts have to come together to make it happen. But years and years of study??? Really????


3 posted on 10/12/2014 8:05:48 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: rktman

4 posted on 10/12/2014 8:06:25 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: rktman
Although few Americans realize it, Canadian oil sells at a steep discount because the Canadians have few other alternatives than the US market.

Energy East would change that.

With the U.S. virtually its only buyer, the captive Canadians are subject to price discounts of as much as $43 a barrel that cost Canada $20 billion a year.

What the hell????

THIS is the only issue Republicans would have to run on.

Have you heard a peep about this from ANY Republican???

5 posted on 10/12/2014 8:06:30 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

The Republican Party isn’t running on anything as far as I can tell.


6 posted on 10/12/2014 8:08:30 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Texas Eagle

The conservative GOP candidate for Maine’s 2nd congressional district, Bruce Poliquin, is running ads accusing his dem opponent, Emily Cain, of being against the Keystone Pipeline.

He is 10 points ahead of her in the polls.

He also plays a clip of her saying, in her own words, that she favors a carbon tax.


7 posted on 10/12/2014 8:15:25 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often for the same reason)
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To: rktman

Note to Canadians:

Never ever confuse obama/registered democrats with real Americans....NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!


8 posted on 10/12/2014 8:19:32 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

GOOD! I was wondering how that race is going. What an improvement he would be over the current sodomite holding that seat.


9 posted on 10/12/2014 8:19:50 AM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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From a July 2013 article in the Toronto Star on the train accident in Lac Megantic PQ:

"A whopping 28,000 per cent increase in the amount of oil shipped by rail over the past five years is coming under the microscope following the deadly rail blast in Quebec...."

"...Canada’s railways have made a determined push to cash in on the country’s crude-oil bonanza, painting themselves as a cost-effective alternative to politically unpopular pipelines like the proposed Keystone XL..."

"... The Canadian Railway Association recently estimated that as many as 140,000 carloads of crude oil are expected to rattle over the nation’s tracks this year, up from only 500 carloads in 2009..."

Oil shipment by rail is dangerous... If the XL pipeline had been approved in 2009, then maybe that unfortunate accident in Lac Magantic would not have happened in 2013, even though that was oil from Nebraska heading to Irving's 250,000 to 300,00 barrel a day refinery in New Brunswick Canada... The bottom line is, Alberta and Nebraska are awash in oil and it has to get to market. The window for the XL project may have come to an end... Canada has refineries in the east that can process the oil and ship it stateside and overseas and the end result is more jobs for Canada, and less for America.

The Trans Canada Energy East Pipeline is being built and jobs that could have gone to Texas and Louisiana refineries are going to Eastern Canadian refineries instead. As a Canadian, I'm really not too bummed about that, but as Americans you really should be.

10 posted on 10/12/2014 8:25:26 AM PDT by jerod (Pro-Abortion Gun Control Freaks & Environmental Nuts who hated Capitalism? The Nazi's)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Well this info should serve as a follow up ad.


11 posted on 10/12/2014 8:25:47 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Canadians dismayed. Aw I’m so sorry. Isn’t Canada the place where people get prosecuted in Star Chambers for criticizing faggots and other protected classes? Where people flood south across the border to get real health care? Shut up Canada.


12 posted on 10/12/2014 8:28:13 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Gully Foyle is my name, and Terra is my nation)
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To: rktman

Just awful what Obama is doing to America, on purpose.


13 posted on 10/12/2014 8:31:44 AM PDT by Williams
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To: rrrod
On a personal level, we don't.

But on a nation to nation level, we have to.

Obola sets national policy and priorities. Other nations have to live with that and govern themselves accordingly.

Building Keystone is a no brainer. It has basically been rejected by the President. There is another infrastructure project being built, a new bridge over the Detroit River. Canada has almost finished the approaches on the Canadian side. Canada has agreed to pay for all of the costs of building the bridge itself and the highway infrastructure on the US side. This will take the form of a loan to be repaid by tolls.

The hold up now is that the US wants Canada to pay for the customs plaza on the US side. Is there any end to this?

14 posted on 10/12/2014 8:47:37 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Drink your Ovaltine)
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“The Republican Party isn’t running on anything as far as I can tell.”

Their handlers told them not to say a word.. If they don’t talk, they cannot be vilified in the media. Which is giving cover to the rats.

Which does not explain why Republican advocacy groups are silent.


15 posted on 10/12/2014 8:48:57 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Ebola: Satan's End Game for Humanity.)
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To: jerod
The Trans Canada Energy East Pipeline is being built and jobs that could have gone to Texas and Louisiana refineries are going to Eastern Canadian refineries instead.

Along with all the construction jobs and the tax money this project will create. Canada is much better off going the route. The US, not so much.

16 posted on 10/12/2014 9:02:47 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Drink your Ovaltine)
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Never fear my southern friend. I know real Americans from the crap that allowed all this stuff to happen.

Whenever I see US plates up here, I always ask them if they voted for Obama. All except one lady, they’ve always said hell no. Then I say in that case, welcome to Alberta and if there’s anything I can do just let me know heh.

I let one guy call long distance to his wife on my phone because his was broken. I don’t mind, I’ll bend over backwards for any true American. It’s the least I can do as gratitude for helping keep Canada safe during the cold war.


17 posted on 10/12/2014 9:04:16 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Seruzawa

You, sir, have greatly advanced this debate with your wit and wisdom.


18 posted on 10/12/2014 9:05:03 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Drink your Ovaltine)
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To: Seruzawa

Most of us in Alberta are far more American than most Americans. I wouldn’t be so quick to alienate present and future allies in the struggle against tyranny. Just like I don’t judge the US on some far left loons, the same should apply here.


19 posted on 10/12/2014 9:07:02 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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Also relevant, but so far going unnoticed, is the refusal of oregon and washington to allow transshipping ports on the columbia river for coal from
wyoming. The coal would be shipped by rail from the powder river basin to a port in eastern oregon, loaded onto barges, and sent downriver to a terminal, where it would be loaded onto ships for export to asian markets. Ambre Energy was the financial backer for this plan. The usual assortment of environuts, concern trolls, and the crony hit squad known as the sierra club are the main opposition in this case. They’ve also been leaning on the eastern oregon newspaper editorials with nasty attacks on the railroads with regards to them hauling oil and coal through the columbia basin.

The canadians have the right answer. Either the US puts its crony environmentalists in their place, or they just will take ALL of the west coast oil and coal traffic away from us, and just ship it to china instead, for a nice profit.


20 posted on 10/12/2014 9:15:17 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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