Posted on 10/09/2014 3:51:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone
You seem to project a lot of positions people do not take. Did Roberts pubicaly say he would crush the tea party? No, that was McConnell. Did Roberts call conservatives a bunch of racists and seek the votes of democrats? Again, no, that was Thad. Did Roberts bad mouth Cruz’s fills buster? Nope, that was cornball.
Some have issues with Roberts, but not the majority of posters like the other three senators. Cruz is playing the political game well. Orman just made a blunder, and a window is there to be the hero and save one of the most conservative senators running this cycle.
The only one showing a religious like devotion is the GOPe fanboys who think the second comming of speaker McDonnell will be an event of biblical magnitude. Most of the posters here have come to the conclusion that there is very very little (if anything) we get for the next two years with a Republican senate that won’t happen with a Democrat one. Still waiting to hear a defensible argument on that.
Appointments are rubber stamped
We don’t have enough to override President Obama’s veto
The house stops bad legislation no matter who has the senate
Treaties require a super majority
The Republican leadership goes into a fetal position every time there is a fight over the budget
So please do tell.... What good thing happens for the country if McConnell wins prom queen/speaker?
For openers McConnell has stated that he will bring all the House Bills for vote in Senate. Harry Reid has stone walled all bills with conservative agenda.
Wolf is never gonna get elected to a damn thing.
After 47 years in Washington, 33 in elective office, I would hope so.
I am more worried about North Carolina.
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With good reason. That’s what happens when you run a milquetoast RINO, in a race that should have been a lock for the GOP. Now, Scott Brown is a RINO but, he has fire in his belly and he is defeating a long-time, New England, political icon in his Senate Race. He’s taken some Conservative stands; e.g. Immigration/Amnesty. Run a RINO, it’s a helluva lot harder to win because there is not a “line in the sand” distinction there. If you don’t believe me, just remember RINO losers like Dole, McCain, Romney........
ShowVotes for the ShowBoats do nothing for the county. To get something done, they have to either over-ride the veto or compromise with President do-it-my-way. I don’t see either going well for leadership who thinks look out, we’ll vote on something is a threat or progress.
I disagree. When Obummer is forced to veto any bill, that can become news. When Harry Reid is playing gatekeeper, the boy king is free to play golf without any political damage.
If this was Obama’s first term, I would conceded that point. He is a lame duck, and the Dems are distancing themselves from him. He is already unpopular, so... What is the benefit of more bad press for Obama?
It doesn’t outweigh the tendency of a rino legislature to compromise with a democrat president in the name of getting something done.
Why not? He came pretty close to unseating a long term senator in a primary, and he had little money to do it with. If he sticks it out, seems like he'd have a great chance.
By dragging him through the mud and weakening him for the general election, and act which won him no friends.
He's a very poor candidate and unlikely to win a primary for a major race against a competent opponent. Conservatives would be well advised to look elsewhere.
Please splain why, Wolf (sp?) likely would have won the seat had he beat Roberts in the primary.
As to saying bad (and mostly true) things about Roberts, I'm certain Roberts ran no negative ads about him, right? :-)
Now, don't misunderstand, once Roberts won, I would vote for him if I lived in Kansas. Roberts may be a bit mushy, but he's not so bad, not a total unconservative squish. Unlike the Miss race, there was no wrongdoing on his part to win the nomination.
I really disagree with those here that oppose voting for him or say to stay home. Losing this seat to a lying, pretend indpendant who will vote with Reid is no prize to brag about.
I’m quite mystified why the idea of Wolf running again and him winning is being bandied about. Is this coming from Mark Levin?
Wolf is is no statesman, he’s a clueless political neophyte. His own supporters on here almost exclusivity criticized Roberts and had next to nothing positive to say about Wolf other than the boilerplate “he’s not a career politician”.
I empathetically disagree that he would beat Orman. His little joke with the X-rays might have even been enough of it’s own to sink him.
What he’s gonna run for? The Senate in 6 years which will either be Robert’s open seat or Orman’s first reelection? A member of the House delegation (All conservatives) will probably run, with full backing from party leaders who were disgusted with Wolf’s jihad against conservative Senator Pat Roberts. He burnt bridges.
None of the House members are 80 years old or have been in Washington for decades, there goes the only reason he made it a close race with Roberts. And Obama won’t be in office anymore, there goes the “I’m Obama’s conservative cousin” argument. Wolf would be left with nothing but “Dammit Jim I’m a doctor, not a career politician”.
In the case of the Kansas U.S. Senate race, Pat Roberts was the clear choice in BOTH elections. You had a PROVEN reliable Ted Cruz ally vs. some unknown doctor whose only talking point was that he was distantly related to Obama and that somehow qualified him for a 6 year term to the nation's highest legislative body.
It seems some of these Roberts haters aren't for the "most conservative" choice in the primary at all, just whichever candidate screams "Tea Party" the loudest and claims to be "anti-establishment" (regardless of whether that candidate IS actually "anti-establishment). Look at all the fools who supported RINO Donald Trump and pro-gay marriage neo-con Liz Cheney.
You are correct, Obama is a lame duck and nothing much can be gained by attacking him.
However when a bill passes congress and Obama is forced to veto it, it will force MSM to print it. It will get more news coverage than when ML Reid pushes it under the rug in senate. Right now the low information voters think it is only the House saying no to Obama and which is why nothing gets done. When Obama is seen as the obstruction to bills passing, it is all good.
I’ll grant that as a possible benefit although a very minor one. I still don’t think it outweighs the damage done by Rinos. We could get the same benefit by having a strong leadership in the senate that would call Harry out for his dirty tricks.
A majority GOP in senate >> more powerful than >> Harry Reid as ML and Cruz as minority leader.
Based on my observation of politics for 50 years.
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