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(Illegal) Immigrants Kicked Off Obamacare Now Suing Over Discrimination
Daily Caller ^ | 10/03/14 | Sarah Hurtubise

Posted on 10/05/2014 4:14:02 AM PDT by Libloather

Two immigration groups have filed legal complaints against the Obama administration for kicking over one hundred thousand Obamacare customers off their insurance plans without sending notices in their native language, Modern Healthcare reports.

The Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (ICIRR) and Philadelphia’s Southeast Asian Mutual Assistance Associations Coalition (SEAMACC) have both filed complaints with Health and Human Services’ Office of Civil Rights. The groups believe the Obama administration’s move to end the health plans of customers who failed to prove their legal immigration or citizenship status violate customers’ rights as immigrants.

The Obama administration terminated 115,000 customers’ Obamacare exchange health insurance on September 30, after customers failed to submit required documentation to prove their legal status in the U.S.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; discrimination; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration; obamacare
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...customers’ rights as immigrants.

Where can I get a list of those?

1 posted on 10/05/2014 4:14:02 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Whatever you think it is that would give them an advantage over you and then add 20%.


2 posted on 10/05/2014 4:18:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Libloather

” move to end the health plans of customers who failed to prove their legal immigration or citizenship status”

An honest judge would respond about the above by telling the illegals to pound sand up their rumps.


3 posted on 10/05/2014 4:20:31 AM PDT by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Libloather

Remember the Mexican/Central American beliefs on hospitality:

“Tu casa es mi casa.”


4 posted on 10/05/2014 4:21:27 AM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: ken5050; Grampa Dave; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; GOPJ; Jane Long; sickoflibs
....they failed to submit required documentation to prove their legal status, now the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (ICIRR) and Philadelphia’s SE Asian Mutual Assistance Associations Coalition (SEAMACC) have filed complaints w/ HHS’ Office of Civil Rights......saying the Obama admin's move violated their "rights" as immigrants......

NOTE BENE: Under the US system of justice, a lie is considered an admission of guilt.

Taxpayers demand to know the scope and dimension of possible fraud and demand that documents held by the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights (ICIRR) and Philadelphia’s SE Asian Mutual Assistance Associations Coalition (SEAMACC) be scrutinized for possible falsification.

Falsifying Official Documents involves altering, changing, or modifying a document for the purpose of deception.......can also involve forgery and/or passing copies of false documents.

Falsifying documents is usually done in connection with broader criminal aims, such as extortion, government fraud, tax evasion, obtaining govt benefits, money laundering, financing terrorism........

Types of documents commonly falsified may include:
◾Tax returns and income statements
◾Personal checks
◾Bank account records
◾Business record keeping books
◾Immigration documents (such as visas, passports, etc.)
◾Identification cards and birth certificates

Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:
◾Altering or misrepresenting factual information such as prices or monetary amounts
◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements
◾Forging a signature
◾Using official letterheads without authorization
◾Concealing assets or property WRT obtaining federal/state grants))
◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document

A person can only be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party.

Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility

Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years. Also, if government documents or authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. ..... legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.

The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.

5 posted on 10/05/2014 4:31:01 AM PDT by Liz ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: Darksheare

“telling the illegals to pound sand up their rumps.”

Preferably doing it back in their own country.


6 posted on 10/05/2014 4:31:34 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Libloather
Pro-amnesty American citizens must think that the rest of us 300,000,000 Americans are blind and stupid.

For instance, Pro-amnesty people demand that President Obama give work visas to at least 8,000,000+ illegals.

But what pro-amnesty traitors conveniently forget to mention is that many of these 8,000,000 illegals who will get work visas have husbands/wives and school-age children.

24,000,000 illegals get amnesty? My point is this: Pro-amnesty people are not really talking about 8,000,000 illegals, because they secretly know in their hearts that they are really talking about more like 24,000,000 illegals----3 times 8,000,000 illegals--- who will eventually get AMNESTY when President Obama takes his pen and quickly signs his executive order in a few weeks.

how did I arrive at the number of 24,000,000 illegals? I did it this way: I multiplied 8,000,000 illegals by 3.

1. Obviously, illegal immigrant men need their wives and children to keep them company. and many of them are already here.

2. And illegal immigrant women need their husbands to help them with the children.

3. Also, these illegal immigrants with their new work visas will now have no fear that immigration agents will be coming to their home to check to see how many in the household besides the visa holder are here legally.

4. So once they get their work visas, they can invite any number of relatives to live with them without fear that immigration officials will be coming to their unexpectedly to check the status of the people in the home. As long as visa holders pay their rent on time and their children attend school, we can be sure that no immigration officials will bother them and their families.

My point is this: Work visa holders and their growing families will be here forever. Basically, deportation of these illegals and their families will never happen, if President Obama has his way and goes ahead and signs his executive order soon after the midterm election.

5. You see, you can't very well legalize 8,000,000 illegals by giving them work visas, on the one hand, and then, on the other hand, turn around and deport husbands and wives and children of the work visa holders, persons who may not qualify for work visas for one reason or the other.

6. So I believe that multiplying 8,000,000 illegals by 3 is a good conservative estimate of how many illegals will immediately benefit from President Obama's executive order---an estimate based on a household with two parents, one child.

7.Of course, many households will be single households with no children.

8.But, as we know, many, many households of illegals who will be given work visas will have two or more children, so all those many children will easily make up for those households in my 24,000,000 estimate that have no children.

9. So that is the way I concluded that 24,000,000+ illegals will really get amnesty when traitor President Obama gives away our country with the simple signing of his executive order: 8,000,000 million illegal work visa holders times a conservative estimate of 3 member's in each illegal immigrant household.

10. Again, when President Obama quickly signs his executive order soon after the mid-term elections, he will NOT be giving amnesty to just 8,000,000 illegals as the pro-amnesty people want us to believe.

11. Rather, when the smoke clears, anti-amnesty people will wake up one morning and suddenly realize that the pro-amnesty people and President Obama have pulled off one of the biggest scams in history, because President Obama will really give amnesty to 24,000,000 illegals, not 8,000,000 illegals as President Obama will claim when he signs his executive order soon after the mid-term elections.

NOTE: 'Because it was the right thing to do." This is Obama's favorite phrase when he wants to justify his decision on a controversial subject like illegal immigration.

It is as if Obama wants us to believe that his decision is divinely inspired, that is, God himself told him what to do. What a bunch of crap.

So be prepared to hear Obama's phrase---"Because it was the right thing to do"---over and over after Obama signs the worst executive order ever.

It is the worst ever because President Obama will lie to us and give amnesty to not 8,000,000 illegals as Obama will lead us to believe when he signs the executive order, but to an unbelievable number of 24,000,000 illegals. Sick. Sick. Sick.

NOTE: If the government can't handle those hundreds of illegals who crossed the Mexican border recently, how in the world is the government going to process the 8,000.000 illegals that President Obama will give amnesty to in a few weeks after the mid-term elections? No way. No way.

7 posted on 10/05/2014 5:17:26 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Libloather

Always keep in mind that the United States of America is the only country in the world into which people can sneak illegally, and then demand that taxpayer funded services be delivered to them in their native language.


8 posted on 10/05/2014 5:27:40 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: sima_yi

There is a more fundamental principle at work here.

Lawyers can bring suit and get the government to pay their fees


9 posted on 10/05/2014 5:33:16 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: House Atreides

LOL


10 posted on 10/05/2014 5:48:05 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: john mirse

Can’t be true, for the past ten years they’ve been telling us there are 11,000,000 illegals total. /s


11 posted on 10/05/2014 5:50:20 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: john mirse

I have a little bit of an issue with the executive branch passing laws under executive order. This “privilege” needs to be reconsidered. The power of the POTUS needs to be weakened after this administration. Without clear definition and severe consequences in the implementing of this tool, the republic has been lost. The balance of power has been tipped by an avalanche.


12 posted on 10/05/2014 6:05:31 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

executive orders are only issued to various aspects of governmental entities - they are not binding on the general public. Why cannot the average American Citizen basically take an illegal alien, pick them up by the seat of the pants and the collar of the shirt and dump them back over the border. They have no rights if they are illegal and why is it that duffus attorneys defend those with no rights.


13 posted on 10/05/2014 6:23:46 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Libloather
The rights are so broad that I believe it may be easier to compile a list of the rights they don't have.

Among other things, the US Supreme Court ruled in Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886) that the Fourteenth Amendment's due process and equal protection provisions apply to all persons, regardless of nationality.

Kaoru Yamataya v. Fisher, 189 U.S. 86 (1903), specifically applied Wick Yo to illegal aliens.

Wong Wing v. U.S., 163 U.S. 228 (1896), extends the protection of the Fifth and Sixth Amendments to all persons within the territory of the United States.

First Amendment protections? Yes.

The biggie, however, is that Fourteenth Amendment equal protection.

14 posted on 10/05/2014 6:26:59 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Opinions don't affect facts. But facts should affect opinions, and do, if you're rational)
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To: Libloather

I wonder how many of these 115, 000 actually paid an insurance premium....

My guess would be zero....


15 posted on 10/05/2014 6:32:09 AM PDT by Popman (Jesus Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Libloather
Any bets on whether the administration goes down in this court case faster than a mob-bribed boxer? Libs have a history of surrendering to “friendly” lawsuits to get as judicial orders and consent decrees what they can't get through law or even executive orders.
16 posted on 10/05/2014 7:05:05 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: Libloather

Ha!


17 posted on 10/05/2014 7:37:38 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: hondact200

Not only don’t they have rights, but what makes them believe they have standing? They aren’t citizens and demand rights. This whole thing makes me sick.


18 posted on 10/05/2014 7:45:49 AM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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To: Libloather

Two immigration groups have filed legal complaints....

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And, of course, our tax money is paying for the illegals’ lawyers.


19 posted on 10/05/2014 7:49:21 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: sima_yi

Doesn’t Mexico have a Socialistic health-care system? If these were truly legal IMMIGRANTS, they should be able to whip out their paperwork lickety-split.

It’s yet another Leftist hypocrisy. They LOVE to point to nation’ law about XYZ, but never when it comes to ILLEGAL aliens


20 posted on 10/05/2014 7:56:34 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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